Help identifying belt plate

[Grousedown]

Found this belt plate where an old farm house once was in Vermont. Any help identifying would be greatly appreciated.

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[creskol]

no I tried VMA already. I feel like I e tried every combination of letters. Does anyone know of any belt plate experts on this forum?

That's a pretty broad field.

 

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[Mudflap]

I found a sword once and found it was from the Knights of Columbus

 

[Grousedown]

just got a little bit closer.... I found this picture but of course the link doesn’t take me to a page that has anything to do with the picture. The picture cuts off what the monogram stands for. The last word I can read is Royal.

 

[creskol]

What was the site?

 

[Grousedown]

It was just on google image and it brought me to an eBay site. This picture couldn’t be found on that eBay site so it was a bit of a dead end.

 

[devldog]

Very nice looking plate. Here's hoping you can get a positive ID on this piece. Someone will know I'm sure. Congrat's on a nice save.

 

[Grousedown]

Thank you very much!

 

[Steve in PA]

just got a little bit closer.... I found this picture but of course the link doesn’t take me to a page that has anything to do with the picture. The picture cuts off what the monogram stands for. The last word I can read is Royal.
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Based on the descriptions here, it sounds like a British source

 

[creskol]

Based on the descriptions here, it sounds like a British source

That's what I was thinking, too. Maybe he will post the link to that page.

 

[Grousedown]

I thought the same thing but the belt plate below it is for Royal arcanum which is an American fraternity.

 

[Grousedown]

That picture came out of the Ames Sword Company Catalog. Does anyone have that book to look up no.754?

 

[creskol]

That picture came out of the Ames Sword Company Catalog. Does anyone have that book to look up no.754?

Had you provided the link like I asked you to do, it would have made things a lot easier. Instead, I had to sleuth the net until I found the listing on the OTHER buckle.
So, I contacted the seller and asked him for the information. Next time be more forthcoming.

 

[Grousedown]

Thanks for looking that up for me. I didn’t provide it because I thought it was a dead end since the seller on eBay sold horse products. I originally thought it was royal arcanum as well but I found zero information where Royal arcanum had a buckle like that. I wonder what the M would stand for? Even with knowing that it belonged to royal arcanum I will have a hard time finding information on that specific belt plate. Thanks again for your help!

 

[Steve in PA]

I don't have a firm ID, but I suspect it is a late 19th century sword belt plate from a fraternal organization.

So my initial suspicion was correct. It is related to fraternal organizations.
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