help ID these foreign coins

[Goes4ever]

my mother just came back from a vacation and bought these 2 coins at a flea market for me, they look like silver, are about the same size as a Peace dollar, any clue as to what they are and if they are silver?

 

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[La Beep]

The one on the left:

Aisin-Gioro Yung Yen, Emperor Jia Jing as depicted on a Ching Dynasty Silver Dollar. Although by all means a strong ruler, during his reign the Qing Dynasty started its decline.

http://www.drben.net/ChinaReport/So...endancy_Summary_Qing_Dynasty_1644-1911AD.html

 

[La Beep]

The one on the right:

The Boy Tsai Tien, Emperor Guanxu, who's life and reign was overshadowed by the dark influences of Empress-Dowager Hsu-Tzi.
As depicted on a late 19Th Century Ching Dynasty Silver Dollar.

http://www.drben.net/ChinaReport/So...endancy_Summary_Qing_Dynasty_1644-1911AD.html

 

[La Beep]

Here is two on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Chinese-COLLECT...oryZ4368QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Chinese-COLLECT...oryZ4368QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Goes4ever]

so they are silver, I did not see much info about the coins on those links though, are the dates of the coins the latest date? or are those just dates when they ruled?

 

[Goes4ever]

wierd even in the ebay auctions it doesn't mention the silver percentage or the actual year the coins were minted

 

[La Beep]

Life 1760 - 1820 AD
Reign 1796 - 1820 AD, Name of Reign Period : ChiaChing
Renzong (Aisin-Gioro) Yung Yen, Name as Emperor Chia Ching (Jia Jing)

Life 1871 - 1908 AD
Reign 1875 - 1908 AD , Name of Reign GuangXu
Dezong (Aisin-Gioro) Tsai Tien, Name as Emperor Kuang Hsu (Guangxu)

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

so they are silver, I did not see much info about the coins on those links though, are the dates of the coins the latest date? or are those just dates when they ruled?

They do NOT look silver to me and the eBay listing says nothing about being silver. If they are, I would buy them. I dont think they are old either but interesting souvenir tokens nonetheless.

 

[Goes4ever]

well in person they look exactly like my peace dollars and they have the "silver sound" when you drop them on a table

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

sorry. starting bid 99 cents...free shipping. I do not have them in hand to see for myself but it doesnt look like silver. but who knows? I can be wrong.

La Beep- why do you call it a silver dollar?

 

[La Beep]

Other dragon dollars have about 88% silver, However I can't pin these down.

More reading on dragon dollars:
http://blogs.ebay.com/klaichitcom

 

[La Beep]

Warning about fakes:
http://www.china-briefing.com/news/2007/12/21/chinese-silver-dragon-coins.html

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Ah ok i see now. This needs more research.

 

[La Beep]

I am taking a break, my eyes hurt. Good luck, bigcypresshunter.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I will research more tonite. It appears thatthere are silver dollars and there are copies. The copies going for 1-10 dollars on eBay and the silver ones are worth much more.
I can spot silver just by looking but I cou;ld be mistaken by a foto. Maybe you could have a pawn shop test them.Beware of any coin, painting or collectible from China.

 

[Goes4ever]

I have no idea what my mom even paid, like I said she bought them at a flea market and they are well circulated for sure. But they sure do look like silver and they have the silver sound when you drop em

 

[La Beep]

But they sure do look like silver and they have the silver sound when you drop em

Are you reading any of the links provided? This is the second time that the answer was in the links. The first was about the time ruled. Quote from one of the links:

however there are also many fakes of this type of coin, produced over the past decades. Some of these have also now become collector’s items, as in order to pass them off the silver content remains high – so they may be worth digging out at a local Chinese market

This is not to say yours is not real it also says weigh and measure them to be sure, thus lies the problem, need to find the weight and measure for your variety.

 

[Goes4ever]

sorry did not see the weight part, I just checked them on my gram scale, they weigh 20.1 grams

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

When you hold them on edge with your silver Peace dollars and maybe some Eisenhowers, do they look the same color? CRHunters can spot silver on edge easily.

If you cant tell by looking at them, you may need to have them tested at a pawn shop.

 

[Goes4ever]

yes they do, if you notice my sig I am a CRHunter