Help ID a few civil war camp finds please.

[Sarge38624]

I found these three items in Vicksburg, MS in a location where I have found lots of civil war items. I think the one item may be a suspender clip, but I am not sure. The disc shaped object looks like it used to have something soldered to it in two points. I assume the buckle is some sort of horse tack, but I have never seen one shaped the way it is on the end.








I hope you guys can help me identify this stuff. Thanks in advance.

 

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[coloradocav1]

The piece in the middle is part of a suspender buckle, the last buckle, saddle or horse equiptment. cant quite make out the disk or the bottom pic. does the susp buckle have any writing stamped? I have a large quantity of these buckles from fort sedgewick in colorado.

 

[BosnMate]

The buckle is probably off horse harness or in some cases it might be saddle hardware.

 

[Sarge38624]

The buckle is probably off horse harness or in some cases it might be saddle hardware.

I thought maybe the buckle was from some sort of horse tack, but it has a boxey opening on one end. I have never seen a buckle with that kind of shape.

 

[Sarge38624]

Here are a couple more pics of the disc. I really hope someone has an idea of what it might be. It has what appears to be two solder points on one side that may have held a pin or insignia? I would appreciate any insight.

 

[SkaBa]

Disc is probably bridle rosette.

 

[CRUSADER]

Disc is probably bridle rosette.

Yeap, all now IDed.

 

[Historybuff1959]

I believe the item to the right is a buckle of the strap of a harness for a horse. I found one like the item next to it and have yet found out what it is. Have you attempted to clean the round item some?

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Sarge38624, your iron buckle is indeed a horseharness buckle... specifically a version called a Union Loop buckle. "Oddly shaped" horseharness buckles can often be identified by searching through diagrams in late-1800s/early-1900s horsegear mail-order catalogs... some of which are viewable for free online. Here's a link to one, the J.M. Eilers & Co. 1907 catalog of horsegear and leatherworking tools. Your Union Loop harness-buckle is shown at top right on page 107.
It is a lengthy .pdf document, but worth the time to look through, for anybody who cares enough to learn the true identity (and time-period) of the odd-looking iron buckles they find.
https://archive.org/details/catalogueno200jmei

Credit for the photos below goes to my friend Quindy a.k.a. Vol1266-X.

 

[Davers]

Mr , CannonBallGuy.

IYO
Were his buckles or buckle used during the Civil War ? & still popular at the time the catalog came out ?
Thanks

 

[BLK HOLE]

Nice finds and CBG once again hits the homerun for ID

 

[A2coins]

Yeap, all now ID d.

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[A2coins]

Nice finds and CBG once again hits the homerun for ID

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[A2coins]

Nice finds a good ids

 

[A2coins]

Oops that was a mess lol

 

[Hawks88]

Nice finds. With a positive ID. Congrats

 

[Davers]

My spell check changed I'd d

LOL.
I never use spell-check , I started computer-ing in 2012 & have not progressed much.