✅ SOLVED Help!???Colonial era Silver. Thanks

[Joecoins]

Sorry big correction diameter is 25 mm
Thanks!

 

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[Joecoins]

Mexican reales coin from reign of Carlos IV 1788-1808. Diameter will determine the denomination.
1R=20mm; 2R=28MM;34mm=4R and 40mm=8R.
Don....

Hi, I think maybe you misinterprated one of my photos,
The mystery coin is not a carlos4, you positvely identified a diffent coin in the photo. Could you take another look please? Would be very helpful.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Mack knows coins better than I and my memory is bad and i may be misunderstanding. Google Carlos IV mexico mint and see if it matches. I'm on a weak signal

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The best way is to post the mystery coin and the Carlos IV mexico mint ID side by side to see if its a match but i cant do it.

 

[relic lover]

I'm starting to think it's not an eagle on the back maybe it's something else

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

This coin should be solvable. Where are the coin guys?

 

[relic lover]

I think it is the Carlos 3 obverse and a later Eagle reverse I will post some pictures later I'm at work right now

 

[gunsil]

Nice necklace!! I hope this is seen by the folks who seem to perpetuate the myth that holed coins were done to "sew into clothing", when it was mostly done for jewelry purposes.

 

[relic lover]

Okay here's a theory sometimes when a die breaks they use an older version to keep production going so I'm thinking the Mexican reverse with a substituted Carlos 4 obverse

 

[Joecoins]

Very interesting.
Maybe the reverses were switched because it was made during the war 1810-1820 ,
The writing on the perimeter is odd to me.. i think gothic style or polish coin style. Now i think zacatecas from mexico

 

[Joecoins]

The mexican eagle seems the most probable for one side, im not shure about carlos 4

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I can't do it on my celphon but if you put the Carlos iv side by side to the mystery coin it doesn't seem to match.

 

[Mackaydon]

Joecoin,
RE your post #9. The reverses have the same legends and images with the exception of the mint marks.
Don..

 

[cw0909]

I can't do it on my celphon but if you put the Carlos iv side by side to the mystery coin it doesn't seem to match.

i did the eagle side, i dont think it looks like the mystery coin

 

[Mackaydon]

RE; Post 15
Coin on the right is from Potosi, Bolivia. Mint mark includes a distinctive "T".
IMO Assayers ('JR'): José de Vargas y Flores or Juan Palomo Sierra and Raimundo de Iturriaga,
Don....

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

RE; Post 15
Coin on the right is from Potosi, Bolivia. Mint mark includes a distinctive "T".
IMO Assayers ('JR'): José de Vargas y Flores or Juan Palomo Sierra and Raimundo de Iturriaga,
Don....

Hello my old friend Mackaydon. We are trying to ID the coin in the center post #33. Its the reverse of the mystery coin on Joecoins necklace Do you have any idea what it may be? It doesnt seem to match a Mexican Carlos IV and there seems to be much confusion here. Go back to post #1 this is the mystery coin we are trying to ID.. We already know the others.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

i did the eagle side, i dont think it looks like the mystery coin

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No I dont think its a match and as was said, the obverse is different. Thanks for posting them side by side.

 

[cw0909]

you would think there is enough here to see what it is

 

[relic lover]

You're right the eagle does not seem to be a match

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Somebody could search silver colonial coins from the late 1700s/early 1800s. Try Spanish, French, Porteguese, Dutch and all the Carribean/ South American colonies. I drew a line where i think is the bottom of the coin. I think its a profile of a face thats looking left and i drew an arrow pointing to the nose. It almost looks Haitian but i checked.

 

[relic lover]

I messed around a bit with the contrast to try to bring out the lettering. I am starting to become obsessed LOL I can't imagine how bad it would be if I owned the thing.