Has anyone heard anything about a small coil for the Equinox?

[Truth]

I hate waiting for something like this. It’s important and I need something when I need something.

 

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[bleeohio]

I'll say I'm on the fence about the six inch. I don't have the patience that it takes to work a small coil but I'd sure swing the snot out of an 8-9 incher.

 

[Dan(NM)]

I called Minelab today and asked about the small coil, "late spring" is what I was told. Well, spring is almost over, so, here we are again.....waiting!

 

[fuceye]

What the minelab dealer looked like when I asked him when the 6" coil I ordered would arrive...​

 

[dirtlooter]

I called Minelab today and asked about the small coil, "late spring" is what I was told. Well, spring is almost over, so, here we are again.....waiting!

did he say which spring?

 

[Normsel]

There are guys waiting for the E-800 and you people are worried about 6" coils. I was told sometime in June but I am sure there are so called waiting lists for the 6" coil.. Those that suck up get the best service

 

[sprailroad]

All I know is that Kellyco has it on a "Pre-order" basis for $179.00 I ordered a 800 several weeks ago, and their site says they are shipping December orders. If I were to order a 6" coil now, perhaps it might arrive by May of 2019. Message to Minelab is, "Really"?

 

[vferrari]

Obviously it's because Minelab doesn't want to sell stuff and just wants to pizz off it's customer base.

Folks the thing is over the top in demand. Yeah, ML did not anticipate the the overwhelming demand, or perhaps they did, but in any event production facility infrastructure does not just expand overnight. They are not Apple or Google with infinite cash reserves and infrastructure to support millions of units. Metal Detecting is not exactly catching the world on fire if you hadn't noticed, so all metal detector manufacturers are going to suffer from high demand spikes from new release product saturating limited production infrastructure. That is never going to change because sooner or later the sales of this detector and its accessories will settle down to steady state level that is consistent with the production facility capacity. Until that happens, we are all going to have to wait or move on to another guy. That's the nature of supply and demand. Unfortunately, ML will lose customers as a result, but I am not sure they will be crying about it too much because the net sales will result in some decent overall profit, I suspect.

 

[Normsel]

Wait no more

 

[sprailroad]

Obviously it's because Minelab doesn't want to sell stuff and just wants to pizz off it's customer base.

Folks the thing is over the top in demand. Yeah, ML did not anticipate the the overwhelming demand, or perhaps they did, but in any event production facility infrastructure does not just expand overnight. They are not Apple or Google with infinite cash reserves and infrastructure to support millions of units. Metal Detecting is not exactly catching the world on fire if you hadn't noticed, so all metal detector manufacturers are going to suffer from high demand spikes from new release product saturating limited production infrastructure. That is never going to change because sooner or later the sales of this detector and its accessories will settle down to steady state level that is consistent with the production facility capacity. Until that happens, we are all going to have to wait or move on to another guy. That's the nature of supply and demand. Unfortunately, ML will lose customers as a result, but I am not sure they will be crying about it too much because the net sales will result in some decent overall profit, I suspect.

vferrari is right of course, I think I was just venting some frustration. Beginning to "second guess" myself as to ordering one? I'm sure all will work out in the end. Never any kind of response though from KellyCo or Minelab on this Forum, but, it is only one of many. HAVING said all that, I'll quit my whining and return to "Todays Finds".

 

[smokeythecat]

did he say which spring?

Plus send them more money!

 

[SittingElf]

From what I gather after discussing with various sources, we are likely to see the 6" start shipping in numbers next month. (June).

Like the 800, though, a number of dealers already have waiting lists. (I'm #1 with my dealer, so I'm set)

Also, Waterproof Headphones are already starting to make their way to US Dealers. This time they're first, because the headphones are made by Koss in the USA. (Already have seen one purchased by an EQ owner from his dealer)

Small accessories like the charger are also in the pipeline for delivery very soon. The longest wait will likely be for the 15" coil which still does not have a price announced. Everything else is in the pipeline already.

Frank

 

[cudamark]

Obviously it's because Minelab doesn't want to sell stuff and just wants to pizz off it's customer base.

Folks the thing is over the top in demand. Yeah, ML did not anticipate the the overwhelming demand, or perhaps they did, but in any event production facility infrastructure does not just expand overnight. They are not Apple or Google with infinite cash reserves and infrastructure to support millions of units. Metal Detecting is not exactly catching the world on fire if you hadn't noticed, so all metal detector manufacturers are going to suffer from high demand spikes from new release product saturating limited production infrastructure. That is never going to change because sooner or later the sales of this detector and its accessories will settle down to steady state level that is consistent with the production facility capacity. Until that happens, we are all going to have to wait or move on to another guy. That's the nature of supply and demand. Unfortunately, ML will lose customers as a result, but I am not sure they will be crying about it too much because the net sales will result in some decent overall profit, I suspect.

What I can't understand is the lack of accessories. They're not all made on the same assembly line (and in some cases, not even in the same country). Why weren't they built and available at the same time as the detector?

 

[vferrari]

vferrari is right of course, I think I was just venting some frustration. Beginning to "second guess" myself as to ordering one? I'm sure all will work out in the end. Never any kind of response though from KellyCo or Minelab on this Forum, but, it is only one of many. HAVING said all that, I'll quit my whining and return to "Todays Finds".

I'm with ya man! I say all the common sense stuff above, but it's still frustrating, I know. It's not like I haven't ranted about it, too. Especially those headphones which are just special orders with their proprietary connector (don't get me started). No reason those couldn't have been ordered months in advance because regardless of what last minute changes came out of Equinox detector pre-testing, those were not going to change. Coil is probably an assembly line thing, though. Regardless, I try to figure out why they would want mess with the end user, and the only thing I can come up with is their production folks just blew it, I guess. Missed opportunity. Hey but that still does not excuse the ridiculous markup prices for the wireless audio accessories. That is something you CAN fume about. Or, if you are an 800 user, take on the opportunity to sell your WM08 for a reasonable price if you don't intend to use it.

 

[vferrari]

What I can't understand is the lack of accessories. They're not all made on the same assembly line (and in some cases, not even in the same country). Why weren't they built and available at the same time as the detector?

Yeah, see my reply above. Doesn't completely make sense why not at least some the accessories were ready at launch (e.g., the WP headphones)

 

[smokeythecat]

If you get the two coils as extras, big and large and headphones, what are we talking $450 to $500 additional? The 9" coil would have made sense, oh well. The 6" coil makes sense for tight areas, not so much a 15" to go deeper. I'd think there wouldn't be an advantage to the larger one over the one the machine comes with. Can't tell right now.

I bought a larger coil once for my Tesoro Cibola but only got an advantage in really bad ground.

 

[fuceye]

If you get the two coils as extras, big and large and headphones, what are we talking $450 to $500 additional? The 9" coil would have made sense, oh well. The 6" coil makes sense for tight areas, not so much a 15" to go deeper. I'd think there wouldn't be an advantage to the larger one over the one the machine comes with. Can't tell right now.

I bought a larger coil once for my Tesoro Cibola but only got an advantage in really bad ground.

Equinox coils are smart....the bigger the smarter. They will sense when you need a bathroom break and kill the battery, forcing you to get out of the field to charge up and go to the bathroom.
In fact if you put the daily crossword in front of the equinox coil and leave it on....don't be surprized if the crossword is completed when you get back...

 

[gunsil]

I had e-mailed Minelab a month ago requesting that they come out with an 8" coil for the Equinox machines. For general hunting I find this the optimum size coil and for many years an 8" coil was the industry standard for general coin shooting. The race for "more depth" resulted in most manufacturers making 11" coils standard and although they may be deeper than an 8" coil they will never provide the separation and accuracy at normal (say to 10") depths. I was told they would have a six inch coil in late spring but they had no plans for an 8" coil. To me this sucks, I normally use an 8 incher on my Safari and ATP, and usually on my Infinium. I really don't like six inchers either, just too small. I don't understand why they are not considering making a wider coil selection for the Equinox like they did for the Explorer series. I really would like an Equinox 800, but may not get one until Coiltec or somebody else comes out with an 8" coil for these machines. Of course for me it may be a moot point since they seem to be a little lame about getting the 800s to market and I will certainly not pay an asinine price to get one now.

 

[cudamark]

Extra separation may not be necessary with the super fast processor the Nox has. I'm more interested in coverage of large areas and would rather get a 15" coil than a smaller one.

 

[fuceye]

I had e-mailed Minelab a month ago requesting that they come out with an 8" coil for the Equinox machines. For general hunting I find this the optimum size coil and for many years an 8" coil was the industry standard for general coin shooting. The race for "more depth" resulted in most manufacturers making 11" coils standard and although they may be deeper than an 8" coil they will never provide the separation and accuracy at normal (say to 10") depths. I was told they would have a six inch coil in late spring but they had no plans for an 8" coil. To me this sucks, I normally use an 8 incher on my Safari and ATP, and usually on my Infinium. I really don't like six inchers either, just too small. I don't understand why they are not considering making a wider coil selection for the Equinox like they did for the Explorer series. I really would like an Equinox 800, but may not get one until Coiltec or somebody else comes out with an 8" coil for these machines. Of course for me it may be a moot point since they seem to be a little lame about getting the 800s to market and I will certainly not pay an asinine price to get one now.

I here you....the 11" is just a bit of a tight fit and the 6" although ample size for those tight spots just does not satisfy....forget the 15" its a monster and I'm sure
it will just ruin most people. 8" sounds nice but I prefer a 9" it has a familiar feel to it.