Gun control Ban!

[TerryC]

I just heard.... from the news station I always watch... that the gun control ban has DROPPED assault weapons and high cap mags from the bill. Great! Just goes to show that most in political life are more concerned with getting re-elected than the use of assault weapons in their districts. Long live the Constitution! TTC

 

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[liftloop]

far out
arm the teachers

 

[Guns Blazing]

I hope it's true, there is a certain 17s calling my name =D

 

[TooManyHobbies]

Watch for an amendment attached to another bill. The sneaky scumbags. CT legislators are screwing with us too, just like CA and CO (and other states).

 

[bevo]

I say no to background checks, and also look up HR 437, it almost says the same as finestinks.

 

[Mzjavert]

Gotta wonder how our forefathers managed to survive when they all owned firearms.

 

[bevo]

That is why they ensured our rights, period.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Watch for an amendment attached to another bill. The sneaky scumbags. CT legislators are screwing with us too, just like CA and CO (and other states).

You got it. They'll sneak it in as a rider on the bill. Weasels.

 

[bevo]

hr437 hr437 hr437 hr437

 

[donb0078]

Love your quote Charlie p

 

[arnofarrell]

S. 150 is the bill that was shelved but will come back in a month to be voted on or shelved again. The second bill that was introduced still is in play from my understanding. Bill hr437 that Bevo keeps refering to is just as bad.

The Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 bill prohibits the sale, manufacture, transfer and importation of 157 of the most commonly-owned military-style assault weapons. It bans an additional group of assault weapons that can accept a detachable ammunition magazine and have one or more military characteristics. In addition, the bill bans large-capacity magazines and other ammunition feeding devices that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.

The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:

• All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature (e.g. pistol grip, detachable stock, grenade launcher).
• All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature (e.g. threaded barrel, a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm).
• All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
• All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
• All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
• 157 specifically-named firearms.

But it exempts:

• Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;
• Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;
• Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and
• Antique weapons.
• 2,258 hunting and sporting rifles and shotguns by specific make and model.

The bill strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and state bans by:

• Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test.
• Banning dangerous aftermarket modifications and workarounds.
• Adding a ban on the importation of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.
• Eliminating the 10-year sunset that allowed the original federal ban to expire.

Additionally the bill:

• Requires a background check on all sales or transfers of a grandfathered assault weapon.
• Prohibits the sale or transfer of large-capacity ammunition feeding devices lawfully possessed on the date of enactment of the bill.
• Allows states and localities to use federal Byrne JAG grant funds to conduct a voluntary buy-back program for grandfathered assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices.
• Imposes a safe storage requirement for grandfathered firearms, to keep them away from prohibited persons.
• Requires that assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices manufactured after the date of the bill’s enactment be engraved with the serial number and date of manufacture of the weapon.

For a list of firearms prohibited, see Sen. Dianne Feinstein's (D-CA) summary of the corresponding bill in the Senate. Unlike its Senate counterpart, S. 150, this bill would allow the transfer of a grandfathered semiautomatic assault weapon under certain conditions (for example, to a family member).

 

[KJ&nugget]

Any change to a background check requirement needs to include a doctors ability to report patients with stability problems. The movie theater shooting involved a mentally unstable man that told his doctor he wanted to kill a lot if people. The Connecticut school shooting was done by a guy that was rejected by the military for mental stability issues.

Background checks would not have shown these problems. Because its confidential. The colombine shooting was done by kids that were both on Ridlin.

I am required for my employment to be armed with a rifle, minimum 375HH. It's not in America but without my gun rights I lose my 21 year employment! It's a very big deal for me!

 

[bevo]

stand and be heard now! I can go on and on, but the message is the same, stand and fight!

 

[ret-detector]

But universal background checks are a serious problem, too...a slow lead to confiscation...just take a quick look at history around the world.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

I am totally against anything that helps puts American citizens names on a list of weapons by owners......Once you have a list the next step is confiscation or worse......I do not trust anyone with that info......

Mexico to Ask US Senate to Create Gun Registry in Border States

Mexico's Congress voted to formally ask the United States Senate to create a registry of all commercialized firearms in the states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. Although the motion will have little impact in the US, it shows the gun control issue continues to resonate on both sides of the border.


The measure was approved January 9 by Mexico's Permanent Commission, the government body that meets when the Senate and the lower house of Congress, the Chamber of Deputies, is in recess.
The Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) senator who introduced the proposal said it was intended to make it easier to trace guns used in violent attacks, reports Mexican newspaper Informador. Close to 60,000 people were killed during the six-year presidency of Felipe Calderon, who left office in December.

The US Southwest is a significant source of weaponry for Mexico's criminal organizations, who typically purchase firearms from US gun stores via a middleman or "straw buyer."

In one indication of the reach of these arms trafficking networks, a semi-automatic pistol recently found at the scene of one shootout in Mexico has been traced back to a former Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) agent, as Minneapolis newspaper the Star Tribune reports. The semi-automatic was found at the scene of the shootout that killed a Mexican beauty queen.
The gun was traced back to an ATF agent who worked in Arizona and played a prominent role in the so-called "Fast and Furious" scandal, which charged the ATF had willingly allowed weapons to "walk" across the border in an attempt to prosecute the main purchasers of the guns in Mexico. The scheme failed to reach the high level targets, and some of the weapons were later used in attacks on US law enforcement prompting a congressional investigation and hearings. The ATF agent apparently sold the weapon online for $1,100 to a US citizen in Arizona.
InSight Crime Analysis

The vote will likely prove to be a symbolic one. Gun laws in the US Southwest vary, with stricter controls enforced in California, compared to Arizona and Texas. It is unlikely that the US Senate will begin to pressure these areas to enforce more stringent controls anytime soon, although President Barack Obama has said that he is contemplating presidential decrees that would make it more difficult to obtain assault weapons nationwide. This threat follows the shooting deaths of 27 people, most of them children, in a Newtown, Connecticut school.

The US is not the only illicit source of weaponry in Mexico. Guns stolen or illegally sold by the Mexican military, the owner of the only legal gun store in the country, are also thought to provide criminal groups with firepower. Some soldiers and police in Central America also illegally supply weapons to organized criminal groups throughout the region.
Still, the US is by far the largest supplier of weapons to Mexican criminal organizations, according to numerous ATF agents interviewed by InSight Crime.

Mexico to Ask US Senate to Create Gun Registry in Border States - InSight Crime | Organized Crime in the Américas

 

[packerbacker]

The reason it was dropped is they figured the rest of the bill might not pass with it. This way they can pass the rest of the stuff and then work on this later. If it gets introduced later (and it will) and should fail to pass, it will get reintroduced again and again until it does pass. These people are fixated on getting our guns no matter what. Don't they have other things to worry about? Krist, people are walking around with giant sodas right here in California and my grandkids are being exposed to it. btw..............if video games don't have an effect on kids and their habits, why can't they watch cigarette commercials? Violence in the movies and tv they can watch but not cigarette commercials. I guess cigarette commercials are the only thing kids get influenced by visually.

 

[Chadeaux]

OH NO! My kid saw a picture of Joe Camel! She'll never be the same again!

BTW, this is equal to someone trying to explain logic to liberals

Both are equally painful.

 

[Red James Cash]

BTW, this is equal to someone trying to explain logic to liberals

Both are equally painful.

Explaining anything to a liberal is the same as trying to explain color to a man thats been blind all of his life.

 

[XLTer]

Watch for an amendment attached to another bill. The sneaky scumbags. CT legislators are screwing with us too, just like CA and CO (and other states).

Good post .... Don't let your guard down yet . Amendments can be attached to ANY Bill .