Gulf and Florida ship wrecks .

[cornelis 816]

Now we know the name of the ship we still are trying to salvage her . You know here location ? I do and by now John and Peter do know where to look . I wish them all the luck in the world . They will make it . I just hope there is enough left over , taking in consideration that two ,, Texas ,, friends have been working around this wreck for 3 years . Good luck with what is remaining John and Peter . Cornelius (ps . there was also silver on board this ship )

 

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[Salvor6]

Cornelius I think this is a different ship than what you found. The SS Peacock sank in 1803 and none of the coins are dated older than that. I know where the Peacock is located but it is buried in sand. A buddy of mine found it 10 years ago.

 

[ivan salis]

look at the date of the hawaiin treaty - dec , 23rd, 1826 --the military vessel s/s peacock was in hawaii at that time (1826) -- it was the ship that the peacock was escorting to cuba that sank * in 1820 -- the cargo transport vesssel -- its thru the "peacocks" offical report that we know about it occuring.

 

[jeff k]

look at the date of the hawaiin treaty - dec , 23rd, 1826 --the military vessel s/s peacock was in hawaii at that time (1826) -- it was the ship that the peacock was escorting to cuba that sank * in 1820 -- the cargo transport vesssel -- its thru the "peacocks" offical report that we know about it occuring.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Peacock_(1813)

 

[ivan salis]

look up Hawaii US treaty of 1826 * -- the capt that signed it was capt of the USS Peacock. (Thomas ap Catesby Jones )-- this is before the "rebuild" peroid of 1827 /1828

 

[godisnum1]

Heh, happened upon this thread while doing some searching on Google. :-)
It's been a while...

Bran <><

 

[xaos]

uummmm, like 8+ years?

half the posters are dead.

 

[godisnum1]

uummmm, like 8+ years?

half the posters are dead.

Actually, when this post was first made, I frequented T-Net a good bit. And it's a little insensitive to say that, as I have quite a few of my good friends from here who really are dead now... [emoji849]

Bran <><

 

[Boatlode]

uummmm, like 8+ years?

half the posters are dead.

The date of the thread is right under the title. If you're not interested, just don't open it.

I find some of these old threads interesting. This one made me dig out my old Coffman atlas.

 

[godisnum1]

The date of the thread is right under the title. If you're not interested, just don't open it.

I find some of these old threads interesting. This one made me dig out my old Coffman atlas.

You have one? If you have the chance, do you think you'd be able to see what's around for my area between New Port Richey, FL down to Boca Grande, FL? If it's too difficult, don't worry about it. I've been trying to dig up more info around my hometown here in Saint Petersburg, FL... as I know where an in-shore location is here on the Gulf Coast. I'm just trying to determine what it might be without having the means to go see for myself.

 

[Boatlode]

You have one? If you have the chance, do you think you'd be able to see what's around for my area between New Port Richey, FL down to Boca Grande, FL? If it's too difficult, don't worry about it. I've been trying to dig up more info around my hometown here in Saint Petersburg, FL... as I know where an in-shore location is here on the Gulf Coast. I'm just trying to determine what it might be without having the means to go see for myself.

Sure - no prob. I have nothing better to do this morning LOL.

These are from the "Florida" map:
11. In the mouth of Charlotte Harbor the Gasparilla ship with $11 million bullion (LOL - yeah right).
27. One unidentified American frigate sunk off Gasparilla I., 1829, with $10 million in gold. (After #11 above, I would have my doubts about this one too.)

These are from the "Gulf of Mexico and Florida" map (the one shown in this thread):
58. Unidentified Wreck, Dredge. Sunk in 1943.
Lat 27° 58' 00" N Long 83° 07' 00" W
60. Belmont, 1521 net tonnage, Sunk pre-WWII.
Lat 27° 37' 00" N Long 82° 52' 00" W
61. Zalophus, 300 net tonnage, Sunk pre-WWII
Lat 27° 21' 00" N Long 82° 38' 00" W
62. Gasparilla flagship, With $11 million loot aboard. (LOL!)
Sunk in 1821. 26' deep. Buoyed. On Bell Bar. (Awesome, just find the buoy LOL).
At mouth of Boca Grande Pass.
63. Unidentified Wreck 35' over it.
Lat 27° 05' 12" N Long 82° 41' 00" W
64. Unidentified Wreck
Lat 26° 18' 00" N Long 82° 05' 00" W
65. Unidentified Wreck, Barge, 21' deep.
Lat 26° 10' 00" N Long 81° 51' 00" W
66. Eagle, 188 net tonnage, Sunk pre-WWII.
Lat 25° 52' 00" N Long 82° 20' 00" W
67. Baja California, Freighter, 811 net tonnage, Sunk 7/18/42. (This one was in one of the Doc Ford novels.)
Lat 25° 29' 00" N Long 82° 27' 00" W

 

[godisnum1]

Sure - no prob. I have nothing better to do this morning LOL.

These are from the "Florida" map:
11. In the mouth of Charlotte Harbor the Gasparilla ship with $11 million bullion (LOL - yeah right).
27. One unidentified American frigate sunk off Gasparilla I., 1829, with $10 million in gold. (After #11 above, I would have my doubts about this one too.)

These are from the "Gulf of Mexico and Florida" map (the one shown in this thread):
58. Unidentified Wreck, Dredge. Sunk in 1943.
Lat 27° 58' 00" N Long 83° 07' 00" W
60. Belmont, 1521 net tonnage, Sunk pre-WWII.
Lat 27° 37' 00" N Long 82° 52' 00" W
61. Zalophus, 300 net tonnage, Sunk pre-WWII
Lat 27° 21' 00" N Long 82° 38' 00" W
62. Gasparilla flagship, With $11 million loot aboard. (LOL!)
Sunk in 1821. 26' deep. Buoyed. On Bell Bar. (Awesome, just find the buoy LOL).
At mouth of Boca Grande Pass.
63. Unidentified Wreck 35' over it.
Lat 27° 05' 12" N Long 82° 41' 00" W
64. Unidentified Wreck
Lat 26° 18' 00" N Long 82° 05' 00" W
65. Unidentified Wreck, Barge, 21' deep.
Lat 26° 10' 00" N Long 81° 51' 00" W
66. Eagle, 188 net tonnage, Sunk pre-WWII.
Lat 25° 52' 00" N Long 82° 20' 00" W
67. Baja California, Freighter, 811 net tonnage, Sunk 7/18/42. (This one was in one of the Doc Ford novels.)
Lat 25° 29' 00" N Long 82° 27' 00" W

Thanks so much! The one I'm looking for is likely much older... likely in the 16th century, if I had a guess. I'm going to do some more digging to see if anything else shows up.

 

[Detector-guy]

I know this is an old post, but I found an old anchor about 30 miles West of the Suwanee River mouth 3 years ago. It was a stockless anchor (not that big). I was shooting fish and in the mode of spearing and I didn't even notice the anchor until I was editing the video 2 weeks later. Sounds like this stockless anchor fits the time frame of the story but much deeper water and farther out than where the Texas A&M peeps were looking. Any Ideas as to the age or type of boat that would use this type of anchor? Here is a link to the video:

 

[ARC]

I know this is an old post, but I found an old anchor about 30 miles West of the Suwanee River mouth 3 years ago. It was a stockless anchor (not that big). I was shooting fish and in the mode of spearing and I didn't even notice the anchor until I was editing the video 2 weeks later. Sounds like this stockless anchor fits the time frame of the story but much deeper water and farther out than where the Texas A&M peeps were looking. Any Ideas as to the age or type of boat that would use this type of anchor? Here is a link to the video:

No way to really tell from this video... I tried.

Need better vids of it.

Got co-ords ? go back.

 

[Bum Luck]

Same here.

Were you swimming upside down at the beginning? Urk.

 

[Detector-guy]

I know the video is lousy. I don't have the coords but my buddy does, I live in Minnesota and don't get down there very often. I was spearing fish and had the GoPro mounted to my head. In the beginning of the video, I had my head turned to look under the rock ledge for fish.

 

[TRG]

If it had a timber stock that could be missing. Horizontal flukes and a ring at the top - looks similar to this: https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/resources/heritagebranch/maritime/anchornorthheadsydney.pdf

 

[Bum Luck]

I know the video is lousy. I don't have the coords but my buddy does, I live in Minnesota and don't get down there very often. I was spearing fish and had the GoPro mounted to my head. In the beginning of the video, I had my head turned to look under the rock ledge for fish.

Oh - well, I've put mine on upside down - !

Thanks for the vid.

 

[Detector-guy]

It would seem that the first iron stocked anchors appeared about 1790 but the last wood stocked anchors were still being produced up until as late as 1837. going off memory the anchor shank is about 7' long and the curved arms are about 2'-6" long each. Guessing it is about 550 pounds. Is it the main anchor off a small boat or a kedge anchor from a bigger boat?

 

[Tanneyhill]

Old thread, so unsure if the original commentators are still around but I was wondering if anyone has further information on the Spanish transport ship carrying the gold payment on its way to Havana? Ivan said he had information he was willing to sell, but he hasn't been seen on Tnet since summer of 2022. I am not sure if this information can be found in the Library of Congress in DC, but I am planning on spending some time in DC in the spring and summer of 2024 at the Library of Congress doing research.

I am involved in another project at the moment but I am interested in doing more research regarding this lost gold payment.

It is quite sad that a lot of these OG's, who had a lot of heart and charisma in the treasure hunting arena have left us. Their witty & charismatic personalities, wisdom and deep knowledge of actual history has gone with them. 😢