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Dear Friends,

Please find attached and pasted below a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service news release announcing the reopening of the public comment period for 120 days for the proposals to list and designate critical habitat for the Sierra Nevada yellow-legged frog, the northern distinct population segment of the mountain yellow-legged frog, and the Yosemite toad under the Endangered Species Act.


The current comment period for these proposals will close November 18, 2013.


Thank you for your interest. Please contact me if you have questions.




[FONT=garamond, serif]********[/FONT] [FONT=garamond, serif]Robert Moler
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[FONT=garamond, serif]Assistant Field Supervisor for External Affairs[/FONT]
[FONT=garamond, serif]Sacramento Fish and Wildlife Office[/FONT]
[FONT=garamond, serif]U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service[/FONT]
[FONT=garamond, serif]Department of Interior[/FONT]
[FONT=garamond, serif][email protected][/FONT]
[FONT=garamond, serif]916.414.6606[/FONT]





For Immediate Release

Service Reopens Public Comment Period for Proposals to Give Federal Protections to Three Amphibians and their Habitat​
Sacramento - The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (Service) is reopening the public comment period for 120 days for the proposal to list the Sierra Nevada yellow-legged frog and the northern distinct population segment of the mountain yellow-legged frog as endangered and the Yosemite toad as threatened under the Endangered Species Act (ESA). The Service is also reopening the public comment period for 120 days for the proposal to designate critical habitat for these three amphibian species in California.

On April 25, 2013, the Service published the two proposals and opened a 60 day public comment period that ended on June 24, 2013. During and after the initial comment period, the Service received significant interest in extending the comment period.

“The public comment period is designed so that the Service can listen to and take into consideration citizens’ concerns and any information the public may submit regarding these species and their habitat,” said Jan Knight, Acting Field Supervisor for the Sacramento Fish and Wildlife Office. “This process is important so that any final decision made by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service reflects all of the best science and information available. We are reopening the public comment period to ensure the public has adequate opportunity to submit comments.”

The Service will accept comments through November 18, 2013 on the two proposed rules. Comments may be submitted online at the Federal eRulemaking Portal at http://www.regulations.gov. The Docket Number for the proposed listing rule is FWS–R8–ES–2012–0100 and for the proposed critical habitat rule is FWS–R8–ES–2012–0074. Comments can also be sent by U.S. mail to:
Public Comments Processing
Attn: FWS–R8–ES–2012–0100 or FWS–R8–ES–2012–0074
Division of Policy and Directives Management
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
4401 N. Fairfax Drive, MS 2042-PDM
Arlington, VA 22203

The Service seeks information regarding any threats to the species and regulations that may address those threats. A detailed outline of the information that the Service is specifically seeking can be found on the Sacramento Fish and Wildlife Office’s website at: http://www.fws.gov/sacramento/outre...mphibians reopen PC pLpCH-2013jul17 FINAL.pdf. Comments previously submitted during the initial public comment period need not be resubmitted.

The Service has also received requests to hold public meetings on these proposals. The Service is planning to hold two public meetings and one public hearing, likely in fall 2013. The dates and times of these meetings and hearing will be announced when the draft economic analysis for the proposed critical habitat rule is made available to the public and will be scheduled within the subsequent open public comment period.

The Sierra Nevada yellow-legged frog and the northern distinct population segment of the mountain yellow-legged frog are similar in appearance and behavior. They range from 1.5 to 3.25 inches in length and are a mix of brown and yellow, but can also be grey, red, or green-brown. They may have irregular lichen- or moss-like patchiness. Their belly and undersurfaces of the hind limbs are yellow or orange. They produce a distinctive mink or garlic-like order when disturbed. The two species can be distinguished from each other physically by the ratio of the lower-leg length to snout-vent length.

The Yosemite toad is moderately sized, usually 1.2–2.8 inches in length, with rounded to slightly oval glands, one on each side of the head, which produce toxins to deter some predators. The iris of the eye is dark brown with gold reflective cells.

Frogs and toads play an important role in our ecosystem. They feed on insects and are themselves food for other important species such as garter snakes, birds, and even bears. Amphibians, such as these species, play an important role in nutrient recycling. Because amphibian tadpoles live in lakes and streams, but become terrestrial as adults, they are important in transferring energy from the aquatic environment to the terrestrial environment where it is available to terrestrial species such as land birds and mammals.

Both frogs are threatened by disease and by habitat modification associated with the past introduction of non-native trout to fishless waters. Other major threats to the frogs include predation and climate change. The Yosemite toad is threatened by changes in wet meadow habitat associated with past fire management, historic timber management activities, livestock grazing, disease, and climate change.

Recreation use is not considered a significant threat to any of these species.

For more information on these species and this proposal and the information sought, visit www.fws.gov/sacramento.

The mission of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service is working with others to conserve, protect, and enhance fish, wildlife, plants, and their habitats for the continuing benefit of the American people. We are both a leader and trusted partner in fish and wildlife conservation, known for our scientific excellence, stewardship of lands and natural resources, dedicated professionals, and commitment to public service. For more information on our work and the people who make it happen, visit [url]www.fws.gov/cno[/URL]. Connect with our Facebook page at [url]http://www.facebook.com/usfwspacificsouthwest[/URL], follow our tweets at [url]http://twitter.com/USFWSPacSWest[/URL], watch our YouTube Channel at [url]http://www.youtube.com/usfws[/URL] and download photos from our Flickr page at [url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/usfws_pacificsw/[/URL]
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What probably happened is they didn't get the overwhelming support they expected to get to close those areas so they want to give the greenies more time to come up with more phony scence since the truth is out that a fungus (natural) is killing them off and not humans. The truth be known his is natures way of saying this speicies has served it's time on earth and their days are numbered regaurdless what humans try to do to stop it. We are not the cause of everything that goes extinct. Nature does it on her own always has and always will. When our time comes we are gone. END OF STORY!
 

What probably happened is they didn't get the overwhelming support they expected to get to close those areas so they want to give the greenies more time to come up with more phony scence since the truth is out that a fungus (natural) is killing them off and not humans. The truth be known his is natures way of saying this speicies has served it's time on earth and their days are numbered regaurdless what humans try to do to stop it. We are not the cause of everything that goes extinct. Nature does it on her own always has and always will. When our time comes we are gone. END OF STORY!
Yes, you are right, B H. To summarize in a phrase, it is called "Natural Selection". TTC
 

How convenent that some off their links dont go any where, even on their website.

This sounds like a done deal and they are just pleasing us.
 

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I mailed them a request for extention, and comments like was requested by Defend Rural America and I guess this is the response to mine and others requests...
 

Well it is well known that frogs, toads, salamanders etc are like the canary used in a mine to detect for lack of air or bad air, they are the signal that things aren't good. They play an unfortunate role when it comes to environmental issues, they seem to die off at an alarming rate, not reproduce or actually mutate(6 legs, 4 eyes etc). Not that this can't be natural selection in this case but if the animals are dying off when just a short time before they thrived then something is causing it and needs somebody to look into it.

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Well I guess we will see just what kind of baloney science the greenies come up with this time. I agree with BH that it's a ploy to give them a chance to come up with some kind of "Bovine Science" yet again.
 

I'm unfamiliar with these particular laws.
What is lost should such a designation be made?

It does say "Recreation use is not considered a significant threat to any of these species."
 

Well it is well known that frogs, toads, salamanders etc are like the canary used in a mine to detect for lack of air or bad air, they are the signal that things aren't good. They play an unfortunate role when it comes to environmental issues, they seem to die off at an alarming rate, not reproduce or actually mutate(6 legs, 4 eyes etc). Not that this can't be natural selection in this case but if the animals are dying off when just a short time before they thrived then something is causing it and needs somebody to look into

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Or it could be a sign the Brown trout are thriving.
 

I'm unfamiliar with these particular laws.
What is lost should such a designation be made?

It does say "Recreation use is not considered a significant threat to any of these species."

On june 7 2013, Hefty1 posted two pics of what will be lost
 

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LM,
What will be lost if these measures should be voted in will be a whole lot of freedom, rights, income and a HUGE amount of Public Land that we will not be able to use. And in the first place the people that brought the suit have Lied, presented false information to take these rights away from us.
This is why we are upset by these issues...........................63bkpkr
 

On june 7 2013, Hefty1 posted two pics of what will be lost


This is what we will see all over...if we dont stop it now!

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