Golden coins and ring (Roman?)

[NeutonM]

Hello treasure hunters,

I found few coin(one golden and few silver aureus/denarii?) and ring in my garden (East part of the Hungary). Help me to identify which ruler is represented in the coin and what's all about this ring? (probably some kind of roman seal, can't be sure)

Size of the ring: seal part 13mmX16mm, weight 7g;
Coin: 5.2g, 21mm.

 

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[HutSiteDigger]

The ring would be a Wax Seal ring.. perhaps? I don't believe that ring would date to roman times! but the oldest being maybe 18th/19th century.. I am sure others will chime in but those are fantastic finds.. I don't know if you have to go to work tomorrow or not?? but I would call out and dig for gold !! if i were you indeed...

 

[NeutonM]

18 silver denarii + 1 golden aureus + golden ring was found below ground (30cm) - at one place. I suppose it could be some sort of hidden treasure.
And yes, this is indeed wax seal but judging by its seal symbol i still insist it of ancient roman origin. Just look at seal - it must be some of roman gods (at least drawing style is similar to denarii back side images)

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Right...right... I deal with North American artifacts mainly of 18th-19th Century.. Of course - you being in Europe... that makes it totally out of my league when it comes to "Roman Artifacts" there are members on here like Crusader that are from Europe that know about this kind of stuff... I really do hope it turns out to be Roman time period!! if it is you should post it on "Today's Finds" because it would surely be a banner.

Here is a photo of what they say is a "Roman Wax Seal Ring 2,000+ years old" So perhaps it really is Roman. That is really amazing....

 

[Frankyg]

I'm with you Hutdigger.....your first reply that is!! :-)

 

[nhbenz]

The coin appears to say Maximinus Caesar on the front, and Soli Invicto on the reverse (Maximinus was a sun worshiping pagan), so I'd guess somewhere in this ballpark; Galerius, Roman Imperial Coins reference at WildWinds.com

 

[huntsman53]

Seals of many types have been used since very Ancient times and the use of Wax Seal or Signet type rings have been used by the Romans and by Egyptians from their earliest times. Since the ring was found along with many other Roman related items, I would imagine that it and the other items may have belonged to one person or family. The intaglio image in the face of the ring may be of a Goddess they worshipped or was their' designated type crest for themselves or their' family.


Frank

 

[Silver Searcher]

Very Nice indeed The coin is a Maximinus II, as Caesar, AV Aureus. 307-308 AD. MAXIMINVS CAESAR, laureate head right / SOLI INVICTO NK YL XC, Sol standing left, hand raised, holding globe close to body. The ring is a also Roman, Gold with a classical intaglio inlaid, very high status.

I don't think the Gold Coin/pendant was lost in antiquity, as the loop looks modern and added at a later date. The hole is strange also, pieced to be hung, and then a loop added later ?.

SS

 

[CRUSADER]

The coin is IDed above.

just to add the Roman seal ring has a carnelian gemstone (red)

 

[cudamark]

That's a strange angle to hang the coin....either by the loop or hole. If they're genuine roman gold, it gets my banner vote!

 

[CRUSADER]

That's a strange angle to hang the coin....either by the loop or hole. If they're genuine roman gold, it gets my banner vote!

Not really, many of them are heads down, its normal.

 

[NeutonM]

Thank you very much fellow treasurehunters for IDing these artifacts. All this digging stuff really boosted my interest towards roman history.
Ok, here is another part of the treasure. Behold, 18 denarii (had to clean 'em before posting):

Hunting was done by using Garett ACE 350 - good and cheap gear.



PS: I have another question, is there any way to obtain license/certificate for the ring - some kind of proof that this artifact is real roman ring and is not phony?

 

[cudamark]

There's bound to be a jewelry expert that can give you a written appraisal. You may have to pay for it but it shouldn't cost too much. I'd do that for insurance purposes if you plan on keeping the ring. Nice coin collection! Can I come for a visit and bring my detector

 

[H-2 CHARLIE]

what a wild find ... congrats on some super treasure finds .

 

[Silver Searcher]

There is only a Museum that can give you a appraisal for a ring of that age.

SS

 

[CRUSADER]

Thank you very much fellow treasurehunters for IDing these artifacts. All this digging stuff really boosted my interest towards roman history.
Ok, here is another part of the treasure. Behold, 18 denarii (had to clean 'em before posting):

Hunting was done by using Garett ACE 350 - good and cheap gear.

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PS: I have another question, is there any way to obtain license/certificate for the ring - some kind of proof that this artifact is real roman ring and is not phony?

If your thinking of selling it, those that collect these need no proof other than a picture. These people know what they buy.

 

[Silver Searcher]

If your thinking of selling it, those that collect these need no proof other than a picture. These people know what they buy.

Nobody in there right mind would buy something like this from a picture, and with out context of find or Gold content (kt) they might chance a very low bid if they thought the owner did not know what he had.

 

[CRUSADER]

Nobody in there right mind would buy something like this from a picture, and with out context of find or Gold content (kt) they might chance a very low bid if they thought the owner did not know what he had.

People in their thousands do it every day on ebay I would buy it, if I collected them, are you saying I'm not in my right mind?

 

[Silver Searcher]

People in their thousands do it every day on ebay I would buy it, if I collected them, are you saying I'm not in my right mind?

I'm saying your wrong simple as that, the poster is asking about a certificate for the ring, proof that it's a genuine roman ring, only the Museum can provide the full ID that would give the best chances, should he want to sell. As for ebay, it would depend on listing, and the price, sure you could throw out a low bid and chance it's real gold...but it would be just that...a low bid. Are you telling me you would pay £2k plus for the ring with out some paper work and just a picture.

SS

 

[CRUSADER]

I'm saying your wrong simple as that, the poster is asking about a certificate for the ring, proof that it's a genuine roman ring, only the Museum can provide the full ID that would give the best chances, should he want to sell. As for ebay, it would depend on listing, and the price, sure you could throw out a low bid and chance it's real gold...but it would be just that...a low bid. Are you telling me you would pay £2k plus for the ring with out some paper work and just a picture.

SS

Yes, I would, if I really wanted it. Because I know what I'm doing. (thats what paypal insurance covers)