Glass Points? Why the controversy? Photos Included

Airborne80

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About a year ago, I posted a large group of what I believed to be glass points, made from bottles and/or window glass. A moderator here quickly moved the post with the explanation being that he was not sure if I was joking and in any case, this site was for known artifacts, not possible points. Well…. During the past year, I continued to pick up many of these items and more importantly, did some homework. Two things of importance were discovered. One, a glass exert in my area has positively dated most of my glass as being pre 18th and in many cases 17th century. Second, my reading on the subject makes it very clear that many Indians (not just Ishi ) used bottle and window glass obtained by way of trade, raid and discovery, for points. And so……

The primary site that I hunt in, is a known summer fishing village site that saw use from ancient times, up through the Woodland period. The site does not have trash and debris on the ground and yet…. I consistently discover these glass points in the surf line at low tide. While I literally have hundreds of these, I have posted some recent (July August) finds for you to study. Please take note of the obvious worked base and edged on some. Could it be that the only glass "Trash" that occurs at this known Indian site, just happens to break itself into consistent points of similar size and shape? I don’t think so. These points would be perfect for the type of spear fishing that historians say took place here.

While agreeing with me is not a requirement at all, I really do hope to see some real thoughtful dialog on the subject here, as it seems to be an area with little mention here. While these points may not be older than three or four hundred years, if they are in fact points, are they not also American Indian artifacts? Please give us your thoughts and also… if anyone else has found these items, please post your photos.
 

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i honestly dont think they knapped glass, i think is from people that find a peice of glass and just try to knap it a little while they are walking (hunting). i sometimes find glass scrappers and such by my car where people park. i think people were curious on how they made them, and could not find nice slabs of flint to play with, so when they found glass they tried it out. im guilty of it. sorry
 

maybe the pioneers of historic times tried to make arrowheads from glass, im sure they found them too. but maybe historic made.
 

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