Future of metal detecting

[49er12]

Sounds goofy, nah not really. Why metal detec your interested in coins or relics. I dont always think valuable vs nonvaluable, meaning rings and Spanish coins are very hard to find. Seriously folks the fact is NOBODY IS REPLENISHING THE GROUNDS, the valuable stuff is the older stuff.
Look the condition of most things aren't that good. The good stuff thats found is gone forever its not getting replaced now what. Being that said what improvements can be made to make finds easier to find. Remember the good stuff is going , I dont want to here oh there's much more, not with these current detectors abilities. Unless there's more coins and relics laying sideways. Point is this hobby is getting harder to find quality stuff its a fact. What can we expect the next detector to offer considering everything I just said.

 

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[achanceforgold]

Interesting observations,

Possibly deeper, which could mean older targets.
Any detector I have max's out about 9 to 10 inches.
possibly a 24-inch detector is the next gen.

I read, a lot of people who would bury money in their yards would go about 18" inches deep. Deep enough it couldn't easy be taken but shallow enough to still access if you needed it.

 

[49er12]

Thankyou, I've heard they won't make a detector go much deeper due to utilities lines etc in the ground, but I'd say they are many feet deeper. Would different Frequencies make a difference wouldn't think so. Im thinking this hobby is different than anything else, why, well even fishing gets replenished and even hunting more animals, but metal detecting after any item of significance is dug up there's know more, now what, meaning things will be more difficult to find. Does that mean the decline of the hobby in a few years only other option is the detectors will have to be better or the hobby is almost insignificant, heck we dont have the equipment to go in the water like a select few of invested companies. The vast riches are in the oceans etc.

 

[achanceforgold]

well actually they are projecting metal detector sale to rise.
Currently it is 1.8 billion worldwide.
supposed to go to 2.8 billion by 2030.
So a lot more people.

The technology will have to change.
Last year I experimented using 5 AI brains, to classify the metal, with audio from detectors. It worked well but had very shallow depth about 5 inches. So, I abandoned that idea. I read some experiments using spread spectrum for the frequency. Frequency Hopping. Perhaps someone will develop something along those lines.

I have some other things I am trying, which are showing promising results, but still in the testing phase.

 

[Oregon Viking]

Estimates suggest there are over three million shipwrecks worldwide, with many undiscovered and holding potential historical and economic value, according to UNESCO and other organizations.

Damn!!!!!!!!

 

[49er12]

I dont know if this matters, but being America is only 250 years old or about, compared to all other countries much older, id think America has less to be found being a younger country, im trying to think of the big picture, oh the hobby is growing but the finds the old good stuff is declining.

 

[49er12]

Estimates suggest there are over three million shipwrecks worldwide, with many undiscovered and holding potential historical and economic value, according to UNESCO and other organizations.

Damn!!!!!!!!

Yes the vast riches are in the oceans but very few people have the ability or expensive equipment to get. The best is in the ocean but the average person will never get.

 

[Chilli]

Where I am I don't think im seeing the original question.
Where I am guessing from my time.
Gold detecting is on the decline. Yes people still go out and find gold. Every week. But the sizes, wow have they dropped in the past 10ys roughly.
Typical was 20yrs ago. Across the board taking into account the hobbyists and serious. You'd see on the net several plus ounces per week shown up to multi ounces per week.
Now its stuff per week that you need to sift.
Guys on the ground with little garden towels. "There it is whooooo hoooo"
A .3 of a gram and yeeeehaaaaa a gram or more.
No laughing at them now because that's what they are getting. Yeah bigger here n there, but overall its sub gram.
There is bigger stuff but manufacturers are limited by frequencys they can use and other restrictions.
Question is. If the manufacturers were let loose to use whatever frequency or frequencies they could, would it make a difference?
Many gold hunters think "absolutely let it rip"!.
But would it. I think gold hunting needs a huge jump in tech to open it up deeper. There is no doubt mineralisation is the main barrier and even though current tech goes deeper than the old stuff, Garrrett Deep seekers and old Vlfs.
The current stuff we have is missing gold that's still within the 12 inch range.
Many may say "your an idiot, I got a 7 gram at 12" "I got a 3 gram at 9".
Banana's are left within the first 12".
Iv seen enough to know everything we have has blind spots and sometimes those blind spots are ridiculous. I 100% believe that there is still a fortune in gold within the 18" mark. Many single and multi ounce let alone grams.

 

[Loco-Digger]

There are still many keepers out there. I see so much getting dug weekly on this site and others. It is harder for us now because most public properties in my area have been pounded since the late 70's. This makes door knocking more important than ever.

 

[achanceforgold]

Thankyou, I've heard they won't make a detector go much deeper due to utilities lines etc in the ground, but I'd say they are many feet deeper. Would different Frequencies make a difference wouldn't think so. Im thinking this hobby is different than anything else, why, well even fishing gets replenished and even hunting more animals, but metal detecting after any item of significance is dug up there's know more, now what, meaning things will be more difficult to find. Does that mean the decline of the hobby in a few years only other option is the detectors will have to be better or the hobby is almost insignificant, heck we dont have the equipment to go in the water like a select few of invested companies. The vast riches are in the oceans etc.

Do you think if you could go deeper, it would be worth doing?
If so, how deep would been your target depth?

 

[Mgiraz1]

I'm finding more jewelry both costume and precious metals, mostly silver.
Less clad and way less silver coins.
I think the future holds, for me, following crowds of people, wherever they may be, discovering their misfortunes.
I don't care to dig deeper for a silver dime when I can find a silver ring!

 

[Blak bart]

Well I'll just quietly keep doing what I'm doing. I go only in the water, I don't use a scoop, and I hunt with a boat or kyak. Thousands of people a day get in the water to swim and play each day starting in the early spring "now" !! By mid summer it will hit peak jewelry finding season, and I will be at some of my spots underwater twice a week !! There is gold just about each time....not every time, but sometimes the streak of luck can be continuous for weeks !! By the end of October almost every swimming hole is empty, and the finds start to drop right off until spring....winter is rough water, bad visibility, and cold. But there is no decline for me at all....in fact my skills are still improving, and I'm finding even more swimming holes to hunt, and going to deeper spots further offshore each year. Every once in awhile I'll run into a shipwreck, or shipwreck debris, while hunting jewelry. The point is youll have to adapt and discover other areas, and techniques to improve your finds total !! Or you just keep kicking over the same dirt over and over again. Cartier, Tiffany, tous, prada, gucci, coco Chanelle, uverly etc.etc....are just some of the high end names that I hunt for. So as far as quality goes....it's all high end stuff that I'm after, and I find it on a regular basis each year. I also have several control sites that I'm studying to see how frequently gold is lost !! These control sites are where i have exclusive access, and no one else hunts. I monitor them tightly each season, and keep close track of all finds from these sites. They have all the best features, a bar, a swimming hole, and a Latin crowd (they ware gold), and huge spring and summer crowds !! These control spots are small, sand over hard bottom, and clear water !! I got twice a week to them, and more times than not there will be a new gold twice a week !! Not wvery time, but the frequency of fresh drops is higher than i ever thought!! Gold is good for me, and so is silver !! An endless stream of Yankee tourists are continually losing there jewelry all season long.....right now is spring break and the gold is flowing !!

 

[49er12]

There are still many keepers out there. I see so much getting dug weekly on this site and others. It is harder for us now because most public properties in my area have been pounded since the late 70's. This makes door knocking more important than ever.

Yes door knocking, private property which can be difficult and intimidating but thats the other option

 

[49er12]

I'm finding more jewelry both costume and precious metals, mostly silver.
Less clad and way less silver coins.
I think the future holds, for me, following crowds of people, wherever they may be, discovering their misfortunes.
I don't care to dig deeper for a silver dime when I can find a silver ring!

If I may , most people are not wearing the real jewelry of old also, expensive etc, so value is not there.

 

[achanceforgold]

Well I'll just quietly keep doing what I'm doing. I go only in the water, I don't use a scoop, and I hunt with a boat or kyak. Thousands of people a day get in the water to swim and play each day starting in the early spring "now" !! By mid summer it will hit peak jewelry finding season, and I will be at some of my spots underwater twice a week !! There is gold just about each time....not every time, but sometimes the streak of luck can be continuous for weeks !! By the end of October almost every swimming hole is empty, and the finds start to drop right off until spring....winter is rough water, bad visibility, and cold. But there is no decline for me at all....in fact my skills are still improving, and I'm finding even more swimming holes to hunt, and going to deeper spots further offshore each year. Every once in awhile I'll run into a shipwreck, or shipwreck debris, while hunting jewelry. The point is youll have to adapt and discover other areas, and techniques to improve your finds total !! Or you just keep kicking over the same dirt over and over again. Cartier, Tiffany, tous, prada, gucci, coco Chanelle, uverly etc.etc....are just some of the high end names that I hunt for. So as far as quality goes....it's all high end stuff that I'm after, and I find it on a regular basis each year. I also have several control sites that I'm studying to see how frequently gold is lost !! These control sites are where i have exclusive access, and no one else hunts. I monitor them tightly each season, and keep close track of all finds from these sites. They have all the best features, a bar, a swimming hole, and a Latin crowd (they ware gold), and huge spring and summer crowds !! These control spots are small, sand over hard bottom, and clear water !! I got twice a week to them, and more times than not there will be a new gold twice a week !! Not wvery time, but the frequency of fresh drops is higher than i ever thought!! Gold is good for me, and so is silver !! An endless stream of Yankee tourists are continually losing there jewelry all season long.....right now is spring break and the gold is flowing !!View attachment 2201078View attachment 2201079View attachment 2201080View attachment 2201081View attachment 2201082

I think Blak Bart has the idea. It the rivers and streams up. Swimming holes and such

 

[Mackaydon]

Three suggestions to maintaining favorable finds:
1. Research where people use to gather:
a. Where the baseball (wooden) bleacher section used to be
b. Where people gathered for sit down picnics (church socials, for example)
c. Where drive-in theaters used to be--the kiddy play area
d. The edges of parking areas for train stations no longer in operation

2. Be at the beach the last evening of a major holiday and/or at dawn the next day.
a. Search out the area that is next to rental housing (they wont be coming back to find lost items).

3. Join Ring Finders: https://theringfinders.com/about/
(I am not a member nor do I have any affiliation with that group.)
Don in SoCal