Freshwater salvage

[joecoin]

Scrooge,

Lots of debate on this one.

A dive shop owner told me as long as you are in the water you are okay.

There has been some squawking in the newspaper this year about "submerged land leases", but I think that has more to do with people wanting to extend their docks and the Army Corp of Engineers saying no can do.

So, I would not hesitate to detect right up to the shore. No tidal boundaries in the Great Lakes.

 

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[G.I.B.]

Hey Joe maybe you can answer a recent question I've come up with. How far out into the water do property rights extend ? Or How far out can a property owner reasonably expect their land to extend ?
Can I detect righ up to their beach or how shallow is legal vs just good etiquette ?

Every jurisdiction has different laws, it depends on where you are at.

 

[joecoin]

Hey Joe maybe you can answer a recent question I've come up with. How far out into the water do property rights extend ? Or How far out can a property owner reasonably expect their land to extend ?
Can I detect righ up to their beach or how shallow is legal vs just good etiquette ?

Every jurisdiction has different laws, it depends on where you are at.

It is my understanding that in the State of Ohio, the State has jurisdiction over that part of Lake Erie that is in the State of Ohio.

I've been known to be wrong though.

 

[El_Capitan]

Hey, I'm over here West in Minnesota and have been researching several lost wrecks in the Superior and Michigan Lakes. There are many more in Erie as well. If I were you interested in diving the freshwater, I'd head that direction, unless you have some information about the old time gangsters or whoever tossing their loot so not to get caught back in the day. Here, I'm in prime Ma Barker and Al Capone land where there may be lots of loot hiding in the local lakes here, but otherwise, I'm thinking to get more involved in the great lakes diving/hunting. There are probably around 10000 wrecks in the 5-lake chain. Many have been found, but many, many more have not... GL over there.

 

[JLatham]

Hey Joe maybe you can answer a recent question I've come up with. How far out into the water do property rights extend ? Or How far out can a property owner reasonably expect their land to extend ?
Can I detect righ up to their beach or how shallow is legal vs just good etiquette ?

MD DOG, I own Midstate Marine Recovery and have been approached by DEC many times while out doing work on local lakes, I have never had an issue with them, most of them are just curious about what you are doing, once you tell them you are removing a boat or car etc.. they are pretty good about leaving you alone. Having a truck, enclosed trailer, and boat all marked with the business name also helps. as far as the water line the STATE owns the water not the land owner! Their property ENDS at the shore line, the only thing they can do is ask you to move along, the best thing you can do is promote your work with communication with them.

John

 

[mohicanjoe]

Goday !

Good Luck. Lake Erie is off limits. I helped write the 1990's version of the maritime salvage law. If it is in Ohio, in the Lake, it belongs to the state of Ohio or any lake. Unless, you can find the owner's of the wreck, apply for a salvage ticket, and then successfully fight it out with the AG and ODNR. For some reason ODNR officials arrogantly believe that other peoples property is theirs. If you live next to a State Forest, Lake, of Park....they may try to steal your land..barn, and trees...don't forget your mineral rights....get behind in your property taxes and they will go after your land and you are out in the cold.....
.......in Southern Ohio ODNR did illegally move a USGS monument and take nearly 40 acres of land from an adjoin land owner. If you don't think it's possible, just call ODNR and asked.....Mr. XXXXX and a survey crew will be there in a flash to take your land or found property away ...whether you own it or not !! Ask them about a shoot out with the Taylor's when marking property.
Finder's keepers no longer applies. If you find it and keep it, you may win the Lottery and get own cell at Adult Corrections. If you find it and keep it......

 

[allen_idaho]

Come on guy. This thread is over 2 years old. It's just getting ridiculous now. Please check the dates before reviving old necro threads.

 

[Curtis]

It still nice to know this stuff...no matter when posted! I am planning to take on a new part of my hobby (t-hunting) by doing the scuba thing...I was thinking of trying Lake Erie, but not if its against the law to dive and recover stuff!