Framing help

11KBP, I understand what you are saying, but in my particular area the Late Woodland/Ft Ancient sites abound as do a lot of Archaic sites. But Paleo sites are like finding a needle in a haystack. I know of two spots where Clovis Points and Tools have been found with some regularity over the years, but unfortunately neither are plowed anymore and are only disked so the Paleo pieces just don't come to the surface anymore.

Steve, although not specific sites, how about your waterways. I believe I recall seeing some pics of a river or creek which contained gravel or rock. Are they they huntable?
 

Good job with the states! That's all I was thinking the Paleo angle was not mine.
 

Yes. I have several sites along the Ohio River that produce some nice artifacts, but no Paleo. Almost every creek in my area has mud bottoms and no gravel bars and the ones that do have gravels bars I have never found and artifact in and it's not from a lack of trying.

All of the ones in the first picture are from one stretch of beach on the Ohio River.

The other three pictures are another site just about a 1/2 mile down river.
 

Attachments

  • 100_5534.jpg
    100_5534.jpg
    77.1 KB · Views: 87
  • DSC_0023.jpg
    DSC_0023.jpg
    114.4 KB · Views: 107
  • DSC_0001.jpg
    DSC_0001.jpg
    98.1 KB · Views: 102
  • DSC_0017.jpg
    DSC_0017.jpg
    88.8 KB · Views: 103
Would still like to hear how walking a tilled field and finding a Paleo artifact would not be just luck. Starting the search in a likely area should be a given. How then do you dissagree?...11kbp you cut into the convo. sounding pretty sure of yourself. Like you were going to teach me something.
 

Last edited:
Would still like to hear how walking a tilled field and finding a Paleo artifact would not be just luck. Starting the search in a likely area should be a given. How then do you dissagree?...11kbp you cut into the convo. sounding pretty sure of yourself. Like you were going to teach me something.

GatorBoy, in certain areas of the country walking fields and finding Paleo pieces isn't as hard as you think. Check out some of the Texas collections and you will see tons of Paleo finds from the same area. Same way with some parts of other states out west. There is one man from Colorado that has found a butt load of Folsoms and almost all of them from the same creek.
 

The Grim Reaper said:
GatorBoy, in certain areas of the country walking fields and finding Paleo pieces isn't as hard as you think. Check out some of the Texas collections and you will see tons of Paleo finds from the same area. Same way with some parts of other states out west. There is one man from Colorado that has found a butt load of Folsoms and almost all of them from the same creek.

Hardaway field find this year..and bottom half of a clovis(I think never did find out for sure) both field finds

ForumRunner_20120810_183735.png



2012-05-16_21-40-20_488.jpg

Johnathan Griswold
 

Thanks guys.. I remember when you first posted that Paleo..ish piece Jonathan. Looks like the real thing.
 

Grim reaper I'm in Cincinnati and all I really do is walk creeks. I'm not experienced but it's worked out pretty well for me so far. I have old maps of Indian trails and camps that I recently got from the Cincinnati museum center and using those I find good creeks to search. My best creek finds were a pipe, a tiny discoidal with what looks like a dragonfly carved into it and a stone that's been completely smoothed on the top and has cuts and scrapes all over it. Iv found some weird stuff in Cincinnati creeks here's some stuff Iv found either in the creek behind my house or creeks within 10 minutes from my house
 

Attachments

  • image-3923078489.jpg
    image-3923078489.jpg
    39.6 KB · Views: 87
  • image-4197914915.jpg
    image-4197914915.jpg
    50.3 KB · Views: 84
  • image-2615638567.jpg
    image-2615638567.jpg
    50.5 KB · Views: 112
  • image-1684771310.jpg
    image-1684771310.jpg
    39.8 KB · Views: 108
  • image-3556375779.jpg
    image-3556375779.jpg
    54.6 KB · Views: 107
  • image-325410129.jpg
    image-325410129.jpg
    36.7 KB · Views: 100
Nice couple of scrapers there. That pipe is cool but its not native American. Its colonial probably nineteenth century. Its probably made from kaolin clay.could be a post contact trade item.
 

Last edited:
No problem..those pipes are cool. My favorite one I found is glazed green with a face on it. Keep your eyes open for gun flints in that area. Buttons too .. good place for a metal detector.

ForumRunner_20120810_213937.png



ForumRunner_20120810_214158.png
 

GatorBoy said:
Nice couple of scrapers there. That pipe is cool but its not native American. Its colonial probably nineteenth century. Its probably made from kaolin clay.could be a post contact trade item.

Finding trade pipe is awesome! Peace sign, two figer lengths snap and smoke!

Johnathan Griswold
 

Thanks for the help on identifying that. That green pipe is awesome, it's a piece of art
 

Good luck hunting the site. Look forward to seeing your finds. Some stuff from a site where the first thing I found was a pipe fragment. Also that round piece...are you sure it's not lead with patina? It looks like it may be a lead bale seal.
 

Attachments

  • ForumRunner_20120810_234621.png
    ForumRunner_20120810_234621.png
    462.8 KB · Views: 102
Last edited:
That's some awesome stuff. An no its definitely not lead. I thought it was a clay pipe before I ever even attempted to research it.
 

I meant the round piece with the "dragonfly"
 

Oh no it's definitely stone, you can see where it's been smoothed down too
 

Here's a really nice Clay Trade Pipe I found earlier this year on a site I hunt that has an old homestead on it. I found one exactly like it on a web site and I'm pretty sure mine was made at the factory in Point Pleasent, Ohio.
 

Attachments

  • 100_1956.jpg
    100_1956.jpg
    52.4 KB · Views: 91
  • 100_1954.jpg
    100_1954.jpg
    56.3 KB · Views: 101
  • 100_1953.jpg
    100_1953.jpg
    60.6 KB · Views: 98
  • 100_1952.jpg
    100_1952.jpg
    60.6 KB · Views: 101
  • 100_1951.jpg
    100_1951.jpg
    74.3 KB · Views: 95
  • 100_1957.jpg
    100_1957.jpg
    58.9 KB · Views: 96
  • 100_1958.jpg
    100_1958.jpg
    45.8 KB · Views: 87
NICE! that was the big producer. Turns out you can sort of date them by the size of the hole in the stem.the bigger the hole the older the pipe..ha ha..I'm sure there's a joke in that.
Its pretty rare to find an unbroken bowl.

ForumRunner_20120811_072557.png


ForumRunner_20120811_072207.png
 

Top Member Reactions

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top