Found this in a creek in south carolina

[Samrocks1]

I need help getting pointed in the right direction. I found this stone in a creek behind my house the other day. I am not sure what it is. I have been suspecting green garnet but it's hard to tell. I need some opinions. Someone told me it was lave glass but I find that rather unlikely seeing is there's no volcanic activity in south carolina. Someone else said that it could be glass slag but I don't know how it could get here where I live. There are no smelters or bottle factories close by. Plus it feels like a stone and not glass. It was a whole piece and it weighed 120gs. I seperated it to better see what it looked like. When it split it seemed to split in a layered manner. Now I have 2 big chunks and some pieces. Here's what I know about it. It has a hardness between 6.5 and 7. It is magnetic, It seems to be single refractive. I'm not 100 percent sure but I think I see where it began to form. It seems like it is calcium aluminum silicate in the center with iron traces leading into the green. But I'm no chemist. Just seems to be what I've noticed since I started reading and looking at pictures.when it was whole it felt like a rough big heavy stone. Anyways I would like to figure out what it is. I don't believe it is glass. I can drop it on the floor and it just bounces with a loud thud. It looks like a snake head when it was whole. So let's say for instance it's a snake head. Well down at the tip of the where the mouth would be that's where the big patch of what I believe calcium aluminum silitate and then it looks like a grow pattern following up with the red and brownish hues into the vivid green. Someone please confirm or deny my beliefs ad maybe point me in the right direction

 

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[ARC]

My guess... melted glass. ?

 

[Samrocks1]

Can u slam glass on the floor and it bounce?

 

[Samrocks1]

And it feels like it has a thin layer of rock on it that needs to be polished off

 

[Samrocks1]

Does glass have a thin layer of what seems to be stone over it that won't come off without polishing it? If anyone has any answer to these questions please let me know. This thing is mind boggleing

 

[bigfoot1]

I'll take a shot at your last three questions...yes,yes and yes.I camp regularly in the desert here in winter with our atvs.One trip I brought cut up pallets that were a very heavy and hard wood.(I live at 7500 ft elev my whole life,I know about hot burning wood)this stuff burnt like iron wood it was so hot.melted glass in the pit that looked like it was there awhile.the next afternoon I was checking it out,super dense,had a crust on one side that was similar color to the sand in campsite.the kids used it for target with pellet guns and dang that blob was super tough.

just my guess but sure does sound familiar to me

 

[Samrocks1]

Ok thank you. I'm still not convince this is glass to me. I'm not saying it isn't but just not satisfied with that answer. I've felt a melted bottle before and this doesn't seem to feel like that to me. I've the little clear greenish piece I'm holding in my hand with the bigger chunk is so song I can't break it in half with my fingers. Or break it when I slam a thicker piece of glass on it. It just dents the thicker piece of glass

 

[Samrocks1]

Dang over 300 views and Noone can help

 

[Mackaydon]

Welcome to Treasure Net !!
Suggest you take the specimens to your local gem (rock and mineral, etc.) shop; maybe they can help.
Don.....

 

[Samrocks1]

Here are some pictures of demantoid garnet I pulled from the Internet that kind of resemble it.

 

[Samrocks1]

Yea that's the problem. I don't have a local rock and mineral place. There all hours away. Kinda why I turned to the internet. I called and called and called and can't get any help. Kinda stinks.

 

[Samrocks1]

Yea that's what I said when I first found it and stuff. That it looked like krypton it but I'm not sure. I hope I do too. I've been trying to get an answer for four days now or try to get together with someone about it. I've tried contacting the museum but they never returned my phone call. I wish I knew how to run the right tests on it without specialized equipment and stuff. Hopefully I fins someone soon who will take me serious

 

[Samrocks1]

If it is demantoid that would be so crazy because when it was whole it weighed 120gs. After I split it I have 3 hefty pieces. Ones 50.5gs, ones 46gs, and one is 14.5 gs

 

[Samrocks1]

Took it to a bunch of jewelry stores today and Noone could tell me what it is. They did confirm it wasn't glass though and that they could see crystals in it

 

[Tedyoh]

There may not be volcanic activity in SC now but 200 million years or so ago SC was actually part of NW Africa, the super continent was called Pangea, when the continental split / drift happened I believe the rip in the super continent created the largest fissure volcano the world has ever known.

 

[Samrocks1]

Yea I mean I understand there was volcanic activitie here millions of years ago. I know history but just doesn't seem to plausible to me. But if south carolina broke off from Africa than isn't it possible that we could have some of the same things they have here aside from the lava activity? I mean we do have diamond mines and gold mines. I know south carolina has a lot of garnet so who's to say we don't have green garnet here. I mean lookin for stuff like that is a thing of the past. Only serious rockhound do it and there few and far in between. I'm finding that out trying to identify this stone. All I'm saying is we might be sitting on the stuff around here but Noone looks for it anymore or even knows what it looks like. I'm sure that this whole state hasn't been Givin a once over and if it has it was probably in the gold rush Era and Noone had anything else on there mind but gold. I was reading that when the gold rush Era began people were throwing diamonds away because it wasn't known and valuable at the time. So there's probably all kinds of loose stones all over. I also know that rock hill and york and all of the piedmont erea was once mountains and I do know that the creek where I found this seems to me to be in some foothills and another creek down the road is defently in foothills because it's a straight climb up what feels like a mountain. Anyways on another note do you know about stones and minerals and stuff? Does this sound familiar in a stone? A rainbowy redish looking center leading into white leading into a metal looking film then leading to iron traces then into green are there a lot of stones that have that or something? Also are metiorites like a black shiny type rock with lots of wholes all in it and really light?

 

[Samrocks1]

Sorry about the grammar. Sometimes my auto correct spells things funny and I'm typing to fast to notice

 

[Samrocks1]

I mean I know I don't go out looking for this type of thing everyday. Plus these days you probably can find a lot of stuff just in random places. Most of the time if people go gem hunting or gold hunting they go to a commercial mine. This stone probably would have went unnoticed unless my son hadn't handed it to me and said here daddy what's this. I just took my kids to the creek to play and have a good time. Then he stumbled apon this. A jeweler told me today that some stones they can't even get anymore so there getting synthetic ones these days so if she's admitting that I'd kinda be watching out for a stone you buy being synthetic. Every since I found this stone I have been doing crazy research on a lot of rocks and gems and minerals. I'm actually kinda glad it happened and I am learning all this cool stuff. I enjoyed rock hounding when I was a kid. Might get back into it. I mean I've found other stones in the creek but I wasn't rockhounding. My kids ask me to take them to play there so while I'm sitting around I look around. I've found garnet, a few other stones I'm unsure of wanna figure it out. I've found gold covered quartz, silver, so I know there's stuff in there

 

[Samrocks1]

Well I know it isn't glass or quartz. I was right about the white stuff being calcium. I put some vinegar on it and it was fuzzin pretty good. Didn't have to crush to powder or anything. Just dropped it on the white part and it started fizzin.

 

[nuggy]

Yes it would seem to be a crystal formation, one of the sites that is into crystals might take you further, this site is mainly metal detecting. The odd thing is you say it's magnetic - this would seem to indicate an iron content. Nice color and clarity - with no bubbles visible as there would be with fire melted glass. nuggy