Found this half buried in a washout in old Mexico. Help appreciated.

[Burdie]

I finally got this cleaned up. I wonder what it was used for? No markings so can't tell if it is silver or not. I have no idea how old it is. Wish I could say I found it with a detector but I didn't. It was half buried in sand and dirt. It is all metal but the stones. Size is 2" tall and 1.5" thick.



Burdie

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

first off it is not "filigree ".
By the stones and settings it is most likely made in India. From the photos in may be nickle silver. Good luck with the ebay thing.

Can you tell me anything about my ring posted? http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,212592.0.html Is it filigree and how can you tell? Im asking because I want to learn.

 

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[Likely Guy]

first off it is not "filigree ".
By the stones and settings it is most likely made in India. From the photos in may be nickle silver. Good luck with the ebay thing.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filigree :
"Filigree (formerly written filigrann or filigrane; also known as telkari, the name given in Anatolia, meaning "wire work", and cift-isi, pronounced chift-ishi, meaning "tweezers work") is a jewel work of a delicate kind made with twisted threads usually of gold and silver or stitching of the same curvy motif."

Certainly looks like twisted threads of silver to me (definately not the finest example though). Perhaps 'filigree decorated' then. If not filigree, what would you call it?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

http://cgi.ebay.com/COMPACT-COIN-PU...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

 

[lostcauses]

Correct on the twisted wire, yet true filigree does not use a backing. Most is flattened on one side and then made into the shape (Rolled, coiled etc) and soldered to the next part. Both the oriental and Spanish did some great work in such. The term even later came to also cover cut out work that was done. This is just twisted wire soldered to the backing. Filigree is an open work.

first off it is not "filigree ".
By the stones and settings it is most likely made in India. From the photos in may be nickle silver. Good luck with the ebay thing.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filigree :
"Filigree (formerly written filigrann or filigrane; also known as telkari, the name given in Anatolia, meaning "wire work", and cift-isi, pronounced chift-ishi, meaning "tweezers work") is a jewel work of a delicate kind made with twisted threads usually of gold and silver or stitching of the same curvy motif."

Certainly looks like twisted threads of silver to me (definately not the finest example though). Perhaps 'filigree decorated' then. If not filigree, what would you call it?

 

[Likely Guy]

"...The term even later came to also cover cut out work that was done."

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filigree :
"It is now exceedingly common for ajoure jewellery work to be mislabelled as filigree. While both have many open areas, filigree involves threads being soldered together to form an object and ajoure involves holes being punched, drilled, or cut through an existing piece of metal."

I'm learning something new everyday. Keeps the brain from going to mush!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

TN is a constant learning experience. Thanks lostcause, it is not filigree, Ivan. But what is it called?

 

[kycanine]

I wont even try to pretend to know what it is, but it is cool.

 

[One mans trash...]

If that was jewelry, you might call it applied cannetile. I don't know if a purist would agree to that term in this case, but it's in the ballpark. Bigcypresshunter's piece is closer to cannetile.

I doubt this was a coin purse. Very poor design for that. Not any better for face powder. I'm more apt to agree with snuff container. From the 18th century, women were sometimes advised to take snuff to correct poor eyesight. And, of course, they just liked it. Or maybe she took a little cocaine powder from time to time. The alkaloid was isolated by mid-19th century and was freely available in the early 20th.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

If that was jewelry, you might call it applied cannetile. I don't know if a purist would agree to that term in this case, but it's in the ballpark. Bigcypresshunter's piece is closer to cannetile.

Thanks. http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...Cannetille+cannetile&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

[Likely Guy]

That's beautiful. How many times can you hear 'filigree', 'ajoure' and 'cannetile' used in an internet discussion?

Only when it's civilized. I love T'net.

 

[72cheyenne]

That's beautiful. How many times can you hear 'filigree', 'ajoure' and 'cannetile' used in an internet discussion?

Only when it's civilized. I love T'net.

Unless your talking to a redneck, you might here this...."Did you and 'filigree' on a place to go fishing this weekend?" or this "I want to go bowling with you, but my wife asked if I 'cannetile' the bathroom tomorrow."

 

[Likely Guy]

Well done 72cheyenne (nice truck by the way), but you haven't used 'ajoure' in a proper sentence.

 

[Likely Guy]

"Now that ya put it that way, 'ajoure' agree with ya!"

 

[72cheyenne]

"Now that ya put it that way, 'ajoure' agree with ya!"

Nice!

 

[Juanmoretime]

Next time just find something thats easy to identify and then claim you dug it up from 36 inches down! Nice fine Stan!!!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

http://cgi.ebay.com/COMPACT-COIN-PU...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

 

[stefen]

I saw the same purse on Ebay...in fact the seller (who shall remain nameless) tried to hustle me...oh, never mind

 

[Marty-Graw]

it is a snuff box...the stones are polished and called "cabachons" .....can't really give an accurate age...maybe from the 40's......here is a pic of the one i had not too long ago and sent it to a lady that sends my nephew coloring books and sends my mom romance books all the time....hope this helps

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I guess most people don't know that ladies (HA!) during the victorian period used tobbacco snuff, and that my friends is just what I think yer little purse is.........A purty, ladies snuff box....NGE

it is a snuff box...the stones are polished and called "cabachons" .....can't really give an accurate age...maybe from the 40's......here is a pic of the one i had not too long ago and sent it to a lady that sends my nephew coloring books and sends my mom romance books all the time....hope this helps

I think this ones SOLVED. Sorry to hear you didnt get a higher price Burdie. http://cgi.ebay.com/COMPACT-COIN-PU...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50