Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

[fourtrax23]

Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Hello,

I'm new to this site and this is my first time posting. What I have is an assortment of 32 foreign coins (4 domestic) some of which I have no idea of their origin. I have lots of pics, some not as clear as I'd like. I'll try to get better images of certain coins if required. The story is: My uncle has been dealing with antiques for years. He purchased a roll top desk that needed some work. As he was working on it he found a small green leather coin purse which contained these coins. I think he said one of the drawers had a false bottom to it. He gave them to me about 20 years ago along with a newspaper from the 1880's (not pictured) that was also found in the desk. I'd put the coins away never really examining them, and forgot about them. Last week I found this site and it reminded me of the coins. It took some searching, but I found the purse. I was amazed to see such a variety of coins, some of which are in great condition. I'll post them all, the picture resolution and sizes are massive though. The ones I'm most interested in identifying are the coins that have a lion holding a scimitar on them with asian/oriental characters on them. Thanks in advance, and happy browsing!

**UPDATE** All coins have been identified - Diamond/square with #4 still unknown.

-Back

-Front

-1911 sitting liberty

-Gold Lion/scimitar - unknown coin side 1

-Gold Lion/scimitar - unknown coin side 2

-1941 Australian Penny - Back

-1941 Australian Penny - Front

-Silver Lion/scimitar collection - unknown

- Completely unknown item

- Front/Back "Anna"

- 1942 Ceylon 5 cent

- 1943 India Rupee

- 1935 New Zealand

- Back of an unknown - Vietnamese?

- Front of an unknown - Vietnamese?

- Front - 1932 15 Kon Russian?

- Back - 1932 15 Kon Russian?

- 1935 New Zealand

- 1929 six pence

- 1942 six pence

- 1945 India Rupee

- Back

- Front

- South African

- Unknown Russian "CCCP"

- 1943 India "2 Anna"

- 1918/1935/1938/ Liberty Cent 1911 Half

I have no idea on what some of these coins are, or the estimated value of any of them. Any ideas? Thanks for looking.

 

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[relichunters]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Wow those are really nice and in good condition. Maybe the person was trying to collect one of every type of coin?

You have some good money sitting there.

 

[Tony in SC]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Wow!! great coins!! What is the square thing with a hole?? Tony

 

[DD-777]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Great collection! Give these links a shot - hope they help. As far as foreign coins go, unless they're very old or very rare, they seldom are worth much - but you never know...

http://www.coins-world.org/index.html

http://www.circulationcoins.com/konfuciy.asp?v5=www.coinlink.com

http://worldcoingallery.com/

 

[ivan salis]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

the loin with sword is iranian (shah of iran time frame) thus pre 1979 ---you got some silver coins in the mix. the large iranian coin is silver as are the aussie sixpences,

the 3 big penny are british thus "brittania" not liberty ---as in "brittania rules the waves" -- she is the british equal to our "lady liberty"-- the half penny is said like "hey penny" -- the british use penny and more than one is "pence"
only americams use the word "pennies" which is odd since our coins are cent / cents not penny but the old habit of saying penny stuck with us even after breaking away from england.

you have a few aussie coins and indian coins from when they were "controlled" by britian

a few russian coins --see the hammer and scyle?

 

[fourtrax23]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Tony: I have no idea what the square/diamond with the #4 is. It was in the purse with the coins.

DD: Great links, I'll check them out. Thanks!

ivan: I did notice the hammer and scythe, also one is stamped "CCCP" I'm unsure of denomination/date though. Thanks for the Iranian tip, any chance the yellow lion coin is gold? The only 2 coins that look like they could be are the lion coin and the first picture of the Anna. So far the newest coin I believe is 1945, so pre-1979 would definitely seem to fit.

 

[ivan salis]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

sorry no gold coins -- both are low value type coins copper / aluminum mix or bronze -- a copper iranian one is the rare type.

the shah was kicked out in 1979 - the loin with sword is his crest --thus its got to be pre 1979 --your are older about WW2 era the shah came into power in the late 20's or early 30's I think.

 

[trikikiwi]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Nice collection.
You have two New Zealand coins there - as well as coins from our West Island, sometimes known as Australia

I saw the New Zealand 1935 shilling, then I saw the 1935 sixpence and as I scrolled down I was hoping, hoping, hoping, for your sake, to see a New Zealand 1935 threepence because that can be worth NZ$200 to $300 (NZ250 roughly US$150) at the lower end of the quality scale.
Not sure of top condition but I have seen people asking around NZ$700.
Only about 40,000 minted (from memory 40,390 )
I own one (A cheapy at $200) It's one of my treasures.

Happy New Year
Mike

 

[Harry_Morant]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

you have a few aussie coins and indian coins from when they were "controlled" by britian

We became an independent nation in 1901 and were not "controlled" by anyone. When we were a British colony were used British currency (same as you guys). We still have the Queen on our coins as we still operate as a constitutional monarchy but the Queen has no formal powers over Australia. These Aussie coins are known as pre-decimal coins and are not particularly valuable.

The 1941 penny appears to be in VF condition - if it has a dot after the Y the book price is A$10. You can buy them on Ebay for about 40% of book price.

The 1942 sixpence in VF condition has a book price of A$3.

The 1933 Penny may be your best bet. One of the varieties to the 1933 penny was a 33/32 overdate. If you examine the 2nd 3 carefully and note that it is slightly different than the first three and has a small point at the beginning of the top curve then in VF condition it has a book value of A$150. Because of the verdigis however this would probably drop it down to fine which has a book value of A$80 and an Ebay value of $35-40. If its just a plain 1933 Penny it has a book value of A$3 in Fine condition.

Looks like it could be a WW2 Servicemans collection as they are all from countries which were our allies in WW2.

 

[ivan salis]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

I thought the big aussie break with the british "common wealth" occured ar the end of WW2 similar to india. humm you live you learn . - the silver in the sixpence gives them some value just for that. but not too much --but silver is silver

 

[fourtrax23]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Anyone have any ideas on the square/diamond with hole and #4? I know it could be anything, but I've never seen anything like it.

Thanks for all the info.

Harry: The 1941 does indeed have a dot or period after the "Y"

*Edit* Just ID'd the 14th and 15th pic from the top, it's a 1936-38 1 Fils from Iraq

 

[Joe(TX)]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

......................FOURTRAX23............DID YOU EVER WONDER HOW THIS MINI-CACHE GOT ASSEMBLED.....................I inherited a similiar pile of coins!! I had an uncle who was a soldier during WW11...............and he collected many coins from all of the different places that he traveled ...........such as Canada, Australia, England, Germany, France, Russia, etc.....................I do not think that he visited all of these places but being a collector may have accumulated them from other soldiers!!..................JOE

 

[Siegfried Schlagrule]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

the square with a 4 is either a hat check or a weapons tag IMO. siegfried schlagrule

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Wow!! great coins!! What is the square thing with a hole?? Tony

Looks kinda like a drapery weight. Is it lead?
http://www.textol.com/d_items.asp?cat=04

 

[sasnz]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Hey nice finds!!

The new zealand coins from New Zealand are key dates!! All coins from New zealand dated 1935 are key dates , this was a low mintage year for the whole coin spectrum of that year. Obviously the coins value wiill depend on the condition. If you are able to send me some high res pics of the coins i can give you a rough grading based on the pictures and their worth. the other coins i will see if i can find their origin.

regards Sasnz

 

[sasnz]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Hey again.

I had a hunch that the "unknown coins" where from indonesiia and with a little research i am correct, Mystery solved. If you are able to give me a photo of the obverse i can tell you the face value of them.

Cheers Sasnz

 

[sasnz]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Oh just had a better read of the forum, The coins with the lion holdng the sword are in fact indonesian not iranian as previously stated. either 10 , 100 , or 1000 dinnar. hope this helps.

 

[ivan salis]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

so sorry but the lion with sword coins are for a fact -- (shah of iran era coinage of world war 2 era vintage ) 1, 2 and 5 rials (silver)-- the loin with the sword was iran's national crest symbol before the revolt in 1979 that threw out the shah.

by the way the dutch controlled the area now known as indonesia prior to WW2 then the japanese took over --then they became independantafter the war. -- the loin with sword was in fact iran's national crest .

 

[sasnz]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

Hello Ivan

Do you know this for sure? I will confirm that the coins we are discussing are from indonesia. the crown above the lion gives this away. besides i have looked up the coins in the 32Nd edition of Krause coins 2005 standard edition and have a complete match.

How have you come to your conclusion

regards Sasnz

 

[sasnz]

Re: Found "mini-cache" foreign pre WWII coins

so sorry but the lion with sword coins are for a fact -- (shah of iran era coinage of world war 2 era vintage ) 1, 2 and 5 rials (silver)-- the loin with the sword was iran's national crest symbol before the revolt in 1979 that threw out the shah.

by the way the dutch controlled the area now known as indonesia prior to WW2 then the japanese took over --then they became independantafter the war. -- the loin with sword was in fact iran's national crest .

Whoops i have made a bit of a blue. I indeed confirm that the coins are iranian, didnt realise that i had flicked the page into iranian coins. the coins are in fact iranian as ivan has stated. sorry Ivan for the mixup.

regards Sasnz