Foreclosures....

[CRUSADER]

i wasnt trying to argue, and defiantly wasnt saying you shouldn't state you opinion. i actually appreciate you opinion, its a reminder to stay honest, just was saying that it could be done without disrespect.

my point dosnt fall on deaf ears, there are other readers here.

if i found a class ring or something that i had the chance of returning i would like to say that ill give it a good try.

also i didnt read the original post the same way you must have, i read it as there are some houses that are not maintained/ forclosures, that would be nice to MD, not like your waiting for the moving truck to pull out so you can get started. and i assumed ppl who did this, would have targeted older homes not new home flower beds.


our own boundary's are what defines us as individuals,

honesty is a matter of opinion, and in it's self a grey area.

anyway, what I disliked was not that the poster might be waiting in the wings for someone to leave but that they encourage detecting without permission. Maybe, as I say, I mis-understand US Law.

 

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[George (MN)]

I think I'd feel afraid/wrong to detect a maintained property. Maybe someone is coming to look at it and buy it, maybe while you're still there! If nobody was caring for it & no keep out signs, I might think differently & just detect it. But if a real estate co. had a sign in the yard, maybe contact them.

Yes, it is a difficult issue, what is right morally/ethically & what is right legally. Is a law enforced & is there a penalty or do you just get asked to leave.

Our country has many laws where people who don't harm anyone/anything can go to prison & people who harm many get no penalty. It's tempting to say just use logic, but our govt, do they?

Maybe ask the police if you'd be fined, but they might not even be sure what they are supposed to do, as the issue wouldn't come up that often. HH, George (MN)

 

[Nicksan]

If its a forclosure then it belongs to a bank or other creditor so nobody is being taken advantage of.
Simply call the realtor and/or bank and ask permission..... On the other hand it is extremely unlikely that you would be caught and even more unlikely that a bank would press trespassing charges against you once you explained what you were doing. But if you want to take the risk do not complain if prosecuted........

 

[CRUSADER]

If its a forclosure then it belongs to a bank or other creditor so nobody is being taken advantage of.
Simply call the realtor and/or bank and ask permission..... On the other hand it is extremely unlikely that you would be caught and even more unlikely that a bank would press trespassing charges against you once you explained what you were doing. But if you want to take the risk do not complain if prosecuted........

What you state above is completely true of all land (other than MoD & Monumented Sites) in the UK. Anyone can wander onto farm land/gardens without permission & no farmer or owner can do anything about it (no Laws of Trespass exist in the UK). The only Laws broken are non metal detecting related, like damage to person or property. No court of Law is going to listen to a farmer complaining about damage to their field by us digging small holes. No prosecutions have been taken against people caught on land they shouldn't have been on unless it was protected by the English Heritage monumented sites. This type of protection is only a tiny %age of the land in the UK. So why don't we all in the UK do as we please, no one can touch us? The reason is because some of us have honesty & moral integrity in our blood.

 

[allen]

Call the realtor or bank for permission,
most times they say go for it !

 

[CRUSADER]

Call the realtor or bank for permission,
most times they say go for it !

Exactly true of many farmers in the UK (well 50% of them). Many who don't ask permission would have had better results if they did, I'm living proof. Dad & I have enough land for an Army of detectorist, & because the Landowners reconise our honesty, they only let us on & not others. In fact its hard to pursade them to let anyone else have a go. Honesty does pay, just do it!

 

[dank]

huh , i still say its a case by case basis. you cant lump all sites into one category. i dont think it should be free for all everywhere, i would want someone to ask be for they wondered onto my farm land.( if i had some) . but wouldn't care to much if someone was detecting a rental/or unmaintained property that i owned. on the other hand if i woke up one morning and some guy was detecting my own lawn (that i occupy) i think i would ask him to leave.
and i cant speak for all ,but i would say that a lota ppl in my area are just relaxed enough to respond the sameway i would.
maby thats why i dont think its to much of a bid deal. geographical attitude? (if that even exists).

haveing said that, asking is always 100% right.

i have only detected one time without permission, there was a old foundation in the bushes and a sign that said the lot had been bought by a church, and construction was scheduled to start in a week. no harm done right! sure i shoulda asked and went thro all the channels, but i didnt, and i dont feel guilty or like i have violated any body.

 

[sfinder]

Don't hunt without permission! To me, in this situation I call it trespassing.

 

[Emileel]

I have been in Real Estate since 1994, my husband is a Realtor and I now work for a law firm doing real estate closings. In VA, while a property is in foreclosure, many times the property does get overgrown and much harder for the representing real estate company to sell.

Any smart metal detectorist would call the listed Real Estate company on the sign, speak to the listing agent and offer to mow the lawn in exchange for detecting privilages. I cannot imagine any agent who would turn that offer down. Many agents have had to eat mowing costs on properties themselves and who knows, they might be calling you down the road with a list of properties they have for sale you might want to hunt!

I have clients that buy properties out of foreclosure with the intention of tearing down the existing structure. They think its cool that I want to detect the property and sign the permission slip for me at the closing. I am also given a copy of the house key and told to take anything salvagable I might want, before they pull it down.

 

[mckeekitty]

Property in foreclosure is not "public" property. I would seek permission through the bank/realtor. Otherwise you're no better than the thieves who steal the copper piping from the water heaters in abandoned, foreclosed homes.

This is a no-brainer. Detecting on a foreclosed property without permission is an all-new-low. I find it revolting.

 

[jacobwhite08]

I have recently moved to a new area and temporarily renting until I can make a wise investment decision on a home purchase. But I'm very curious about foreclosed homes. I'd like to ask if there's anyone out there who has experience in buying foreclosures? a quarterly report on the foreclosure industry showed that more than a fourth of all domestic home sales during the first quarter of the year were deals on foreclosure properties. Excessive foreclosures bring down the cost of homes, making market recover more difficult. The news, regarded with last week’s grim jobs report, further supports the conclusion that the slow economic recovery is not picking up much steam at the moment.

 

[Higgy]

I would ask first call the realitor tell them you'll cut the grass one time to metal detect or something and sometimes that works

This is a darn good idea!

 

[lookindown]

This thread is FIVE YEARS OLD.

 

[myfantasia1]

I don't see anything wrong with it. Most are left for over a year if not more. weeds, or dirt over takes the yard. I think as long as you don't go into the house. or make open holes everywhere it is okay

 

[myfantasia1]

This is a darn good idea!

this does sound good

 

[BigWaveDave]

This was a good read until this morning