Flower Button (Before and After)

Don in SJ

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Yesterday I went to a site that has been producing artifacts and coins over a 4 century time frame but mostly early 1800's. Last week my son in the area I hunted got a nice 1836 Large Cent and a not so nice Flying Eagle cent. This is the same area that two weeks ago I got a 1787 Connecticut State copper.

The downside to the site is that a large percentage of the copper/brass items found have a hard, cement like coating on them, which does not easily come of, if at all. Back in March I found two 1820's Naval buttons that were encrusted with the cement like crud and Peroxide only removed the dirt but did not touch the crud. So I literally picked off as much as I could with many toothpicks, and did not really enjoy that type of cleaning.

Well, on this hunt, I got a Pewter button, a Musketball and one of those encrusted buttons. Since I could see a design on the button, I knew I would have to try cleaning it to see how nice or ugly it was, also I could see on the rim, some hints of Gilt and that meant maybe a decent button was under that crud.

Last week, while straightening out a cabinet full of cleansers and stuff in the garage I found a bottle of Naval Jelly that I did not know I had, it must have been from my late Dad's stuff, which meant it was from the 1980's at the latest.

I decided to try the Naval Jelly on the button, since I know a lot of the relic hunters use it to clean their gold gilt buttons, but not anything else.

After the normal Peroxide cleaning, which did remove the dirt, but did not touch the cement-like crud. I started to brush on the Naval Jelly. I was surprised that the crud did seem to melt away into a gray slurry and underneath that gray crud, a lot of gilt was starting to appear. I continued on cleaning with several short applications of the Naval Jelly and I was pleasantly surprised on how well it did work on the gilted portions of the button.

I did noticed that on ungilted areas, the copper/brass, turned more reddish, like nickels do when cleaned with some methods or exposed to wet, acidic ground conditions. So, I do see why you have to be careful using the Naval Jelly and not leave it on too long and not to use in on items that are not gold gilt.

Overall, I was very pleased with the outcome, yes it has corrosion, which you cannot do anything about other than soak in distilled water and hope the corrosion stops. But one ugly button is now a lot nicer looking. I might go back now and try the Naval Jelly on those Naval buttons I spent hours picking with a toothpick to remove the crud, maybe they will improve with this treatment.

Don
 

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That's an amazing transformation, Don!! :o

I had no idea naval jelly could be so effective on gold gilt.

Congrats,
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Dan
 

Great button! I wouldn't have thought to use naval jelly.....

Keep diggin'...
 

Well I have learned something today. Nice job on the button. Makes me wonder how electrollis would do on a button like that, particularly if you used a mild charge like a nine volt battery.
 

Nice work!  Yes, Naval Jelly and Aluminum Jelly work quite well.  It's always handy to have some around--even if you seldom have a chance to use it.  The stuff is not expensive at all.


Bravo on the button cleaning, Mr. Button-Crazy-Legs!
 

Well it is nice to know 20 year old or more Naval Jelly did not lose its punch, wonder if fresh stuff works better. ;D
I think the risk was not knowing if my fingers would get derusted from touching it~ :tongue3:

Don
 

I think I have some jelly in my naval right now. I'm going to go clean some buttons. Thanks for the tip Don. Looks great. :thumbsup:
 

Don,

Nice dig! You should probably clean that button up some more. There is still some significant crud in between the flower stems.

Even though it isn't worth anything, it is still a great addition to your collection! :thumbsup:

Kirk :icon_sunny:
 

Don,
Your resto techniques are amazing. Great job on that button. Looks great!!! :icon_king: :thumbsup:
-MM-
 

Great job on the button, I would have never thought it would clean up that well. :thumbsup: What a great addition to your evergrowing collection. Keep at that site, no matter how crusty they come out, you can bring the beauty back. :)
 

Don,
Very nice button. You are always finding the good stuff...keep em coming.
NJ
 

Don,

I knew I would see more posts from you before the fall!

Nice job on the button! I am going to have to try that method next time I find a button like that. (I just checked and the only jelly I have says "Welch's" on it.)
 

Wow awesome job on the button. It came out really nice.
 

Wow!! I know people use it on iron relics but that is quite impressive!!! Do you think you need to do anything to neutralize the Naval Jelly afterwards? Soak it in distilled water maybe?? I just happen to find a jug of it while I was cleaning my pole barn... left over form a car project that has.. well... stopped dead in it's tracks... hmm... might have to try it on some test pieces!!!

Thanks for the posting...

MonkeyBoy
 

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