✅ SOLVED fish object found in civil war camp

treasurehound · Jul 3, 2009

I will give the best info that I can on this unusual item. It is a fish design that meausres 2 1/2" long and about 3/4" wide. There is a number 10 on the back. The bottom and top are separated all the way down to the tail. I do not know if it originally was this way or separated in time. Could this be a clip? There is a ring on the front for what attached to it I do not know. The ring appears to be made of copper and the fish maybe tin or silver. This was dug at a civil war camp near Chattanooga several years ago.

BuckleBoy · Jul 4, 2009

IronSpike said:
I think I found it:

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...shaped+medal&ndsp=18&hl=en&sa=N&start=72&um=1

Patent date is in the 1880s. :icon_sunny:

Bigcypresshunter · Jul 4, 2009

IronSpike said:
I think I found it:

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...shaped+medal&ndsp=18&hl=en&sa=N&start=72&um=1

OMG Ironspike! Banner ID! :icon_thumright:

This is from a children's fishing game where you used a toy rod and line to hook the pieces. Patented by Marie D. Bullock. Going 2 5/8 inches. Thin plated metal. Patent #346,892

PBK · Jul 4, 2009

WELL DONE! :icon_thumleft:

Here's a link to the patent. As you can see, the design was modified slightly prior to production, no doubt to improve players' chances of "hooking" the big one!

http://www.google.com/patents?id=XkJWAAAAEBAJ&zoom=4&dq=#346,892 game fishing&pg=PP1

Montana Jim · Jul 4, 2009

OUTSTANDING Iron Spike!!!!!! That ID was cooler than the find! (Although it's a very cool find).

IronSpike · Jul 4, 2009

Lucky guess and search on the ID

It's a really neat fish relic treasurehound :icon_thumright:

IMO better than most coins same era.

Bigcypresshunter · Jul 4, 2009

IronSpike said:
Lucky guess and search on the ID

You get all the credit because you guessed it from the 'get go', before you found it.

IronSpike said:
Maybe the loop in the front was for hooking the fish. The fish was part of a game "catch the fish" and the number on the back represents points.

Mental Granny · Jul 4, 2009

Very cool find I love the old toys best!

treasurehound · Jul 4, 2009

Thank you all for the research and input. I did not know if this had anything to do with the civil war or not. The game piece makes sense and I never would have thought of it. Someone mentioned earlier about a spot weld they thought they saw. It is not a weld it is a spot where there is a small crease from where the two pieces are joined by the tail. I included a couple more pictures, one of the side that shows not a solid piece and one that shows the crease near the end. Thanks again for all your input and if anyone has any idea of the value please let me know.

intimer · Jul 4, 2009

that's really great to id such a great find.

texan connection · Jul 4, 2009

ya'll absoulutly amaze me,, Great iD

Bigcypresshunter · Jul 4, 2009

treasurehound said:
Thank you all for the research and input. I did not know if this had anything to do with the civil war or not.

Patented by Marie D. Bullock in 1886 but I dont know if she could have marketed it 20 some years before patenting it. Its probably post CW, TOC.

The one Ironspike found had this patent. Patents were good for 15 years after which they were no longer marked.

Ramitt · Jul 4, 2009

Neat find and a great ID.

Tricia · Jul 4, 2009

Excellent. Good work.

trikikiwi · Jul 4, 2009

Well done Ironspike :notworthy:

Great follow through :fish:

Mike

Woodland Detectors · Jul 5, 2009

Ironspike! super ID...And, cool find BTW

Discrimination Dave · Jul 5, 2009

Far out, amazing.
Kids play that game still here with plastic crap.
Great find! I am curious about the manufacturer
and the thing's use in the good OLD usa.
cool.

IronSpike · Jul 5, 2009

Treasurehound any chance you can get back to hunt the spot? There were 80 fish in a game as per this old advertisement for the game:

http://carpenterstreet.com/article.aspx/article1

Discrimination Dave · Jul 5, 2009

IronSpike said:
Treasurehound any chance you can get back to hunt the spot? There were 80 fish in a game as per this old advertisement for the game:

http://carpenterstreet.com/article.aspx/article1

WOW!
Iron Spike,
You have answered all my questions. Great I.D. Great clip.

Discrimination Dave · Jul 5, 2009

oledavidboy said:
IronSpike said:

Treasurehound any chance you can get back to hunt the spot? There were 80 fish in a game as per this old advertisement for the game:

http://carpenterstreet.com/article.aspx/article1

Click to expand...

WOW!
Iron Spike,
You have answered all my questions. Great I.D. Great clip.

Sorry PBK!
I missed your previous link!
Didn't mean to show
my stupid.
d.

Discrimination Dave · Jul 5, 2009

The patent link provided by PBK was quite interesting.
But I am still not sure of the game play.

Four or five tables of mixed partners. Winners advance up to the next table.
Losers at the King's table go down to the last (booby table).

What about losers at the intermediate tables or the booby table?

What do you think?
Would they drop down one then fall off the booby table?
Why should I care?

Man! what a curious view into the lives of our fore(mothers).
Before the days of Crime TV.
lemonaide anyone?

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