First time detecting off my property, first encounter with an a**hole

[Tomas Frijole]

Went to former state forest camp ground on a choice trout river that closed about 20 years ago. Now it is open to wilderness camping and popular with sportsman. There were about 4 cars there and I parked my beater woods truck nearby and started detecting, finding nothing but trash which I was taking out with me.

After about a 1/2 hour a guy and his 4 kids trout fishing came up to their car (nice 80G Eco Toyota) and started packing up and I noticed every piece of equipment was labeled as coming from a top dollar sporting goods store, I assumed he owned or worked at the place. When I was at my truck and putting the broadheads, alum arrow shafts, cans, broken glass, lead sinkers and hooks I found in the truck the kids came over to see what I found. Ground fishing I said. Then the father came up and ragged on me for digging up his fishing site. He proceeded to go on how my truck was S**T and maybe I should have invested in a new vehicle and instead of my "expensive" Ace 150 to steal valuables relics from the state.

I asked him to get his kids out of hearing then I told him that I am a local, not a money grubbing flatlander from down state and dumped my bag of razor sharp and toxic trash on the ground in front of him and told him my family has a camp out here every spring for the kids and I am making sure no one goes to town for stitches like the 1st camp out we had. I also told him this is how I get most of my tackle so I don't have to go through life with his store logo tattooed on my a**.

After I got home I decided to do a little fishing behind my house on the same river where I have about 700 feet frontage. Guessed who was shore fishing on my property. They guy asked me if I was following him, told him no, just investigating my neighbor saying someone was tresspassing on my riverfront. I told him I would be glad to let his kids fish there and see what a real trout hot spot is like if they want to join me but he will have to stand midstream or I will have my nephew, the local DNR officer, arrest him for trespassing and make sure he does not see another fishing license for the next 5 years. He took his kids and left. I hope the little gas generator in his car burned up on his way home.

 

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[boogeyman]

You done good!!!!!! Just hope you picked the trash back up after numbster left.

Sounds like he was pissed because the kids were more interested in your detecting, than his high dollar fishing gear In week or two, you'll probably run across a bunch of holes left by numbster and his $4000 Minelab. He'd probably make a good Archie, he's got the "Archeologists own history" spiel down pat

 

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[Monty]

I am a child of the 1950s. Back then someone like that would have been picking his teeth up from the ground. Things have changed now days with lawsuits and the courts and now we are all supposed to be milguetoast and civilized and politically correct. Now I am at retirement age and have a permanent injury I can't defend myself as I once could and I am getting grumpy so I am told. I am afraid I would have had to give him a severe tongue lashing if nothing else. You did well to hold your temper and, "What goes around comes around" is still true. Monty

 

[GrayCloud]

I too am a child from the 50's and agree with you on that Monty. Years ago, before it hurt to get out of bed, I had a young punk that tried to insult me in front of his young son. Had to get real close and speak lowly to shield my statement from the young boy. Jest of the conversation was, (Don't make me have to cloud up and rain on you in front of your son.). I do not know if he had enough sense to know that I did him a favor that day.
Years earlier, I work at a boat dock on Lake Louie in Catahoula parish. My boss was a wonderful old gentleman from Richland Parish. Many of our customer that owned camps on the lake were well to do folks from his home parish and most were his friends. This was back when I was in my teens, playing ball and working hard. It was a four mile walk on a gravel road for me to get to work before daylight seven days a week in the Summer. This one well to do boy, about my age was putting his Daddy's ski boat in the landing, with his girlfriend watching on. I put the boat in for him and tied it up while he parked. When he came back down to get in the boat, I asked for for the dollar landing fee. He laughed at me and held a dollar out. When I reached out, he intentally dropped the dollar on the ground. I looked at him and he was smiling, very proud of is little exploit. I looked at his girlfriend and it was very obvious that she was not impressed by this punk. I reached down, picked up the dollar, walked straight up the hill to the owner Mr. Kid, and gave him his money. Explained that this would not happen again. To my suprise he said, Whip his candy a$$, when he comes back in with the boat. Sometime during the day Mr. Kid must have cooled off and spoke to the boy's father, because late that evening, the father brought the boat back in. It was obvious he knew what took place, but did not apologize for his spoon fed punk of a son. Never saw that boy again. Just another one of life's little disappointments.

 

[JP]

You should have brought up that movie Deliverance with him, hahaha

I had a few runins with jerks like that too.

When I was a kid I used to go all over my home town looking for artifacts. Now the out of townees have taken over and want to place their rule of law on all. One time (back in 1988), I was walking around the development where my mom bought a house. This guy came over and at first was a big a**hole, maybe one of the biggest, but after a five minute reaming, I showed him what I was finding. He apologized because he didn't know one could find things like that in the area. He then told me to hold on and came out of his house with his collection. He was a retired treasure diver. He had hundreds of silver coins, some gold coins, and other assorted artifacts. That's the only positive story. All of my others with runins were with jerks that stayed that way all the way to the end.

I'm not saying your incident would have turned out all pretty like mine. I know there are a lot of them out there. Hopefully he will learn to be kind and respect his fellow neighbors especially if he wants to get anywhere around there.

 

[Jack_MIghtyheart]

I think GrayCloud got it right.

The only time I ever had any real trouble with anybody they were a bunch of liberal, loonie, left-lobed tree-huggers that still think we are looking for chump change to buy a bottle of rot gut and a container of spud salad at the local get-and-go, along with a welfare Coke to wash the garbage down. Oh, and then of course there was the nun who thought I was "taking the children's money". What money, I had only found two pencil ends by the time she stopped to challenge me?

The truth is that many of my fellow countrymen are a bunch of room temperature IQ's who vote for and keep company with those who would have the government own us all and do away with our fun hobby here COMPLETELY! Once in awhile their true colors show, that's all. Then too, look at some of the ads on TV concerning the riches we bums and free-loaders find when using their brand of detectors that "tell you what it is while it's in the ground". No wonder people still think we are a bunch of out-of-work, shiftless, welfare recipients looking for beer money and enough change left over to buy a cheap pack of cigs.

LL

Hey now, don't make sweeping judgments like that, because many of the same (or similar) arguments can be made about right-wingers. I'm extremely left wing (registered Socialist Workers Party), and I'm working on a bachelors degree in political science, but even as left as I am, I still agree with the right on certain issues. The fact is, there are hypocrites and a-holes on both sides of the spectrum...it's just how people are. But there are just as many people who are decent and understanding. Making sweeping generalizations like this only serve to further the problem, especially when all you have to do is look at me to see that not all "looney, left-lobed tree-huggers" hate this hobby or want the "government to own us all".

I'm not trying to ignite a political firestorm argument, just pointing out that not all lefties are terrible people, just as being on this forum has shown me that not all righties are terrible people.

 

[GrayCloud]

I do not know of any Conservatives that want to shut us out of public lands, that yells with panic when a shovel goes into the ground, that cries like a baby when a tree is cut down for firewood, that does not have the good sense to realize that most so called environmental laws do more damage than good (and yes I can point out many examples).

No, the liberals seem to have a lock on the Wacko ideology.

 

[Jack_MIghtyheart]

Along those same lines, I don't know many who do.

 

[EpsilonMinus]

Wow, how ridiculous. I would have accused him of stealing fish out of the water that you were planning on feeding your own kids later, and told him that using a fishing pole is cheating, because real men use their hands. You can't reason with people who don't care, so you might as well be just as absurd, heh. Way to go on getting the last word, though. Cool story.

 

[Seamuss]

City slickers with their high priced logos and enviromentalist attitude that they own the world.

 

[greydigger]

"No wonder people still think we are a bunch of out-of-work, shiftless, welfare recipients looking for beer money and enough change left over to buy a cheap pack of cigs."

Um, have you been stalking me?

I used to have a shift. Did both days and swing, but work has gone off shore.

Good thing I find enough for beer and cigs. LOL

Also a child of the 50s.
People rude in front of their children really make me angry.
I tell them they should not be teaching their kids that way.
Usually when my large strong sons are there to back me up. LOL

Grey

 

[Tnmountains]

Its like that with a lot of hunters.I am talking deer,turkey,duck etc. They buy all that new gear guns clothes and calls.They show up to take because they have bought all that gear they feel they have paid there dues by spending $5,000.00 in gear. I learned a long time ago you can tell a lot about a person by their gear.If its all shiny and new they probably do not know what they are doing.

 

[canmandan]

Its always been ...... the people with the best set of tools, do the least amount of work

out

Dan

 

[fortbball9]

As to what the man said to you and how he said it.I wouldn't have been so nice to him on my property,my nephew would have been called.And maybe he would have thought about what to say to the next MD'erest
he stumbled upon.You must be a better man than me.I don't take to verbal abuse especially in
front of kids mine or his.I WOULD HAVE PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE GIVE ME THE CHANCE.I don't
know what a trespassing find would be but you could have asked the other guy and he would have
been able to tell anybody after he paid his ticket.

fortbball9