First Texas (Bounty Hunter) bought Fisher !!

[re-tek]

when did you call fisher??Was it after they were bought i never had trouble with them and i hunted with fisher detectors for 3yrs and still have a CZ6a.
Also i understand that people who have the fisher 75's have been having trouble with them and have been having trouble with service..and i believe these machines were out after fisher was bought..
I guess we will have to wait and see....

about a month or two ago

 

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[Sandman]

Fisher used to have excellent service when they were owned by the orginal owners. Now that First Texas has the company and can use the name for the things they sell, the service is what ever makes money for them and to heck with the rest of us. I too still have 4 Fishers that were purchased with the lifetime warranty, which is worthless now.

 

[Murph]

I have a big problem with this and it has nothing to do with detectors or warranties.

When it comes to these corporate acquisitions the problem is there ability to use the name. In this case fisher. This leaves the impression for the uninformed that when you shop a bounty hunter compared to a fisher you are dealing with two companies that are in competition with one another. There ought to be a law against this.

All that is left now is the other big 3 or the more likely scenario of non competition agreements and or splitting up of sales territories and we are looking at a doubling of what we pay for our detectors now. I can also assure you that at the executive level where these deals of questionable legality take place the priority is high profit margin and not putting a good detector in our hands at a fair price.

 

[Keppy]

I have a big problem with this and it has nothing to do with detectors or warranties.

When it comes to these corporate acquisitions the problem is there ability to use the name. In this case fisher. This leaves the impression for the uninformed that when you shop a bounty hunter compared to a fisher you are dealing with two companies that are in competition with one another. There ought to be a law against this.

All that is left now is the other big 3 or the more likely scenario of non competition agreements and or splitting up of sales territories and we are looking at a doubling of what we pay for our detectors now. I can also assure you that at the executive level where these deals of questionable legality take place the priority is high profit margin and not putting a good detector in our hands at a fair price.

All that is left is the other Big 4 not 3 ....Garrett....White's....Minelab....&....Tesoro... ==Jim==

 

[doozis]

Appliance company's have been doing this for years , Frigedaire Gibson , kelvinator are all the same and owned by Electrolux .
Maytag , Amana , Kitchenaid , Roper , and Whirlpool are all Whirlpool .
GE , Hotpoint , and RCA are all GE.
Each of the big 3 use the same main components in all their brands but the prices vary greatly simply by which name is on the appliance.
It's the way industry is going these days. I have heard many customers say " I'll never buy another Gibson refrigerator , from now on it's Frigedaire for me " and both are mechanically identical

Doozis

 

[EasyMoney]

The same thing is true with just about any big corporation. Chrysler bought out Ferrari, yet Ferraris are still the king of sports cars, and are also the fastest production cars made anywhere.. Most TV sets are made in Mexico, China, Japan, and Indonesia, yet people still buy them, often thinking that they are still American made by the original companies.. So many original corporations merged, sold out, or crashed from skyrocket corporate taxes (especially when Bill Clinton was in office) and many American corporations have been bought and sold or traded since that time. It's just a big turnover of different people and different owners and corporations using the same plans or inventing new ones using new engineers, oftentimes by foreigners, and especially from Nepal and India.

At one time Bounty Hunter was the best thing anybody could buy. Their Red Barons blew everything clear out of the ball parks. NOBODY could touch them for all-metal depth. First Texas bought Bounty Hunter and they also own US Bankcorp, a financial institution, among other things, and Texas Growth Fund too. They don't give a rip about "company names", they only do what's in the best interest of their corporation.. Now they own Fisher metal detector company too. Firestone now owns Bridgestone Tire Company, and Cooper Tire company doesn't make their tires at all, they get the pieces and parts from other tire manufacturers and assemble them in various parts of the asian world.

There is no magical formula, nor is their anything that indicates one brand of detector will be better than another that a corporation is in control of, or farm out (which is what MOST metal detector mfgs do, including White's, Bounty Hunter, Tesoro, Garrett, Minelab, and others).

First Texas is just a big corporation, not a metal detector company. Fiat makes airplanes, busses, cars, trucks, kitchen appliances, furniture, medical equipment, etc. They don't just make crappy little cars. And they aren't just owned by Fiat either. And yes, for many years Fiat owned Ferrari AND Lamborghini too. Bounty hunter, White's, Minelab, etc? They are just names, nothing more, and that will all change too. Like one old man once said about the newest metal detectors; "they don't make 'em much better, they just make 'em much different".

 

[Murph]

Like I said there outta be a law and in reality there is since the direction all this is heading is a form of monopoly. Since these corporations can not be trusted to not financially destroy the people they rely on to purchase there products some intervention at the federal level will become necessary.

Think about this the next time you here some lefty politician wanting to raise corporate taxes. Corporations do not pay taxes they simply add it to the cost of the product and it gets paid by the consumer which means you and me. The problem needs to be solved with existing laws that assure that market forces stay in place in the form of competition. If it were not for stiff competition in the tech market the machine you are using to read this post would have easily cost you double maybe triple what you paid for it.

The return of market forces and removal of federal involvement in the health care industry would solve the so called "health care crisis" in this country in under a years time. The formula is pretty simple if not tampered with. Those offering the best product at the lowest price receive the lions share of the business and others attempt to do the same guaranteeing a fair price for the consumer. The only government involvement necessary is to enforce laws that keep these market forces in place. The rest will take care of itself if allowed to. Unfortunately we have it backasswards right now and people who shall remain nameless want to make it even worse. (Hillary)

 

[hsjrev]

The same thing is true with just about any big corporation. Chrysler bought out Ferrari, yet Ferraris are still the king of sports cars, and are also the fastest production cars made anywhere..

You make some valid points elswhere, but this statement is just false. Chrysler has never had any ownership of Ferrari. Fiat owns most of it and GM did have a small stake in Fiat from 2000-2004 but that was dissolved. Ferrari has never been owned or controlled by any U.S. company.

 

[EasyMoney]

It sounds like we both have some conflicting facts or information, mine being that for a short while Chrysler and Ferrari merged for design ideas but that only lasted for a short while, not a long while. My error.. According to Wilkipedia, Fiat now (2007) owns 85% of Ferrari, Mubadala 5%, and Piero, Enzo's son, 10%.. The Chrysler TC was made by Maserati according to road and track. Of course who or what corporation owns what isn't the issue here but thanks for pointing that out. I might point out that the Dodge Viper and Dodge Venom were both designed and engineered by the engineers of the Ferrari Corporation. They were modeled after the 355 if my memory serves me correctly.

The issue here is that names of detector companies and reliable products coming from some kind of special entity are about as dependable as the sifting, drifting sands of secular psychology or natal astrology, pure horse manure. We are at the mercy of the people who have the bucks, those who think a $3500 metal detector is bought with pocket change, you think?

So what's next? How about a screen that shows us what a target REALLY is. Or one that digs it for us? And will it come from a foreign corporation because our own got taxed so heavily that they went out of business or had to farm their work out overseas like so many others in America that fell victim to socialism and it's naturally occuring high corporate taxes?