Few finds to ID?

[IMAUDIGGER]

Hello, I found these relics on my property (within 5 feet of each other). It was mined starting in the 1850's.

This one I have already figured out, I think...lid of a percussion cap container. Does anybody have any interesting info on Ballin & Sander?
From what I can tell they were wealthy importers and bankers. I wouldn't mind dating it if anybody has any ideas...
It reads "WARRANTED ANTICORROSIVE AND INFALLIBLE" "RIBBED SPLIT, GROUND EDGE" "SOLE AGENTS BALLIN & SANDER NEW YORK"


The second item is probably related to a powder flask of some sort?
I have found a few similiar that were not embossed, and I just tossed them.
I'm wondering what the heck it is?
It's made of some sort of pot metal or pewter - not iron.
it is embossed "E.I. DUPONT Co"

 

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[DCMatt]

I'm thinking percussion cap tin for the first relic and gunpowder tin plug on the second. Somebody was goin' huntin'...

Cool finds!

DCMatt

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

I'm thinking percussion cap tin for the first relic and gunpowder tin plug on the second. Somebody was goin' huntin'...

Cool finds!

DCMatt

Yup your right on!

Screen shot stolen off the net confirms it....

 

[trapperart]

Nice finds and nice ID

 

[Mackaydon]

The first item probably predates 1852, the year Ballin and Sander relinquished their import business to become bankers.
Don.......

 

[Mackaydon]

Regarding the second item, the last paragraph of this article (https://www.jstor.org/stable/3117127?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents) regarding the Philadelphia Frankford Arsenal, related the production of percussion caps to Dupont but not before the early 1850's.
Don...

 

[IMAUDIGGER]

Regarding the second item, the last paragraph of this article (https://www.jstor.org/stable/3117127?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents) regarding the Philadelphia Frankford Arsenal, related the production of percussion caps to Dupont but not before the early 1850's.
Don...

Thank you for that information.