Favorite Personal Cobs

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Nice cobs Divewrecks, they look chunky, every time i see nice cobs makes me want to buy some more !
shame the Aussie dollar not worth much at the moment.
Cheers
Sam

 

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[divewrecks]

Yes, I do see the "MB" in what looks like a double-lined monogram. Here it is cropped and rotated. I don't have any ideas at the moment. Interesting.

Stan

 

[divewrecks]

15XXO (Mexico 4R), 16XXP (Mexico 8R), 1714J (Mexico 8R). Stan

 

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Goodmorning Stan. Beautiful cobs, Love the 4 real.
Do you know why these coins where nearly all round ? the early series.
Man you are making me jealous
Ossy

 

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DiveWrecks, some of my old and not so old gold coins, my Mum passed the two gold coins down to me
a few years ago, She purchased them in Madrid about 27 years ago, they are still in there box
never worn. The 2 escudos I purchased from Dan Sedwick.
enjoy, Sam

 

[divewrecks]

Sam, that's some cool bling. Are the mounted coins legal tender or are they some kind of collector coins?

Regarding the round coins I guess they just had higher standards in the earlier days. I don't know if it was based on skill or just a higher level of personal pride in making something that was attractive and legible. Things sure went downhill in later years.

I didn't try to look up your 2 escudo. What do you know about it?

I broke down and ordered a gold coin from the US mint last Thursday. If you look at their web site you can probably guess which one.

My dream coin though would be a near perfect 8 escudo 17XX Potosi. Maybe one day...

Stan

 

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Thanks for the comments Stan. I would love a 8 escudo royal, I can only dream but my next
will hopfully be an 8 escudo 1715 Mexico from the 1715 fleet.
I have the book " Spanish Colonial gold coins in the Florida Collection " my dream book !
I would love some more info on the 2 escudo all I know is, assayer Juan Vicente Bravo 1592-1611
I'm sure its ship wreck you can see under macro some pinkish crustaceans in the shield,
who knows it may have come off the Atocha ?
The mounted coins are collectors coins 24k celebrating Spanish kings and Queens.
Cheers, Sam

 

[divewrecks]

Since he was an assayer in Seville I assume it would have been a passenger's coin if found on the Atocha. It is certainly a possibility.

Yes, there are some pretty coins in the Florida collection. I'm glad Mr. Craig wrote that book. It is a shame though that the State was not carefully studying its collection early on. They let some rare examples slip away.

Stan

 

[divewrecks]

1618 (Atocha - Potosi 8R), 16XX (Santa Margarita - Potosi 8R), 1653E (Potosi 1R).

Stan

 

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Beautiful coins Stan. How rare is a Atocha coin with a full date ? you have an awesome collection
thanks for sharing
Cheers, Sam

 

[divewrecks]

Thanks Sam. The coin cost me around $800 about 4 years ago. About the same time I visited the Mel Fisher museum in Key West and they said a dated Grade 1 would cost around $3500 minimum, so I guess I got a good deal. It isn't my favorite coin, but is the most valuable in my collection. I just wanted an Atocha coin, because at the time I was only interested in wreck recoveries. The "8" is light and looks funny being so far out of line, but it is certainly legitimate. I assume they were modifying a worn stamp or one from an earlier year to get that far out of alignment. Tommorow I have a couple from the Jupiter wreck. I'm glad to finally be getting all these photographed for record keeping. I hope to get a digital scale soon for weight measurement.

Stan

 

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Stan, do you have the link for your US coin, love to see it
Sam

 

[divewrecks]

Sam, here ya go. In my personal opinion this is the most beautiful coin design ever. Definitely a modern day "royal". The first coins ship on February 6th. Hopefully I won't have to wait long. From what I understand they had a tremendous response from the first day of sales last Thursday.

Others, sorry for the off topic post. More cobs to follow.....Stan

Obverse:

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Reverse:

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Ultra High Relief - The Design

The design of the Ultra High Relief Double Eagle is a high-tech re-creation of Augustus Saint-Gaudens' original 1907 high relief $20 Liberty Double Eagle. Below is an excerpt from an official United States Mint press release that discusses the method they used in achieving the most exact duplicate of the original.

"Through advancements in technology, the United States Mint can today produce the ultra-high relief coin envisioned by Augustus Saint-Gaudens in the early 20th century. A 27-millimeter diameter gold blank, more than 50% thicker than other United States Mint one-ounce 24-karat gold coins, will be used, because of its historical significance and the opportunity it provides to achieve the greater depth and relief to which Saint-Gaudens had aspired.

In most respects, the new legal tender gold coin will authentically reproduce the ultra-high relief gold piece. The obverse design (heads side) will be based on the obverse of the original Saint-Gaudens design executed in 1907. The reverse (tails side) also will be based on those pieces and will include 14 sun rays. The edge of the coin will feature the same raised edge-lettering as the 1907 pieces. The edge-lettering features the inscription "E Pluribus Unum" with stars serving as delimiters between the letters.

As approved by Secretary Paulson, the new coin will have several modern elements. The obverse of the new coin will feature 50 stars, instead of the original 46 stars on the obverse (heads side), which represented the 46 states in the Union in 1907. The CCAC recommended that the obverse design be modified in this manner to honor all 50 states in the Union today. Also, responding to the recommendation of the Commission of Fine Arts, the United States Mint will inscribe the Roman numerals "MMIX" (2009) in a style similar to the original Saint-Gaudens design. Additionally, the inscription "In God We Trust" will appear on the reverse design of the new coin because current law requires placement of this inscription on all U.S. coinage."

 

[bigkid4]

Here are some of my cobs. All found by myself with the exception of one given to me. Most are from Jupiter Wreck, 1715 fleet, and the two Lima 1 reale coins possibly from Jonathan Dickinson’s wreck.

 

[divewrecks]

Very Nice BigKid4! What's the approximate ratio of land-to-sea finds?

Is that a burlap sack imprint on the greenish one that looks about 2R size? Cool.

I like the 1686 uncleaned Lima towards the bottom. Nice tone. What is the denomination on that one?

On your first mounted coin (1652?) what is that "I" out by itself over the left pillar? Strange or am I missing something?

The Lima Star 2R (second mounted) is my favorite. Very nice. Of course your 1714 gold is nice to. Did you find it on the beach? I also like the toothpick and assume it is 1715 fleet. Where did you find it?

Finally, don't tell me you found all of those rings in just a few outings. I would probably just throw my detector off a cliff. You got enough to stock a jewelry store.

Stan

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[divewrecks]

164XT (Potosi 2R), 1658E (Potosi 8R). Both coins from Jupiter wreck.

Stan

 

[bigkid4]

Stan, all the pictured cobs are land finds or should I say wet sand finds. Most of the Jupiter Wreck coins were pumped up on the beach for me by the beach restoration project around 10 years ago and yes all that sand has been washed away and most of the last restoration also. I also thought the burlap imprint was cool so I didn’t clean it and it is probably a ½ reale. The two Lima one reale cobs were found many years ago at Jupiter inlet when the south side washed out under the road and part of the parking lot. I cleaned the one and didn’t like the results so I left the second one alone. Since they post date the Jupiter wreck by many years I have always speculated that they are some of the coins the Indians took from Jonathan Dickinson and brought back to their village at the inlet. The I. on the 1652 over the pillar I have no information on other than it is there. Maybe someone more knowable than myself will chime in and answer that one for both of us. The gold coin was a beach find after the hurricanes of a few years ago. I would rather not say exactly where the toothpick came from but it was not near anywhere I would have expected it to be found at. Let’s just say between Corrigan’s and the Cabin wrecks. The gold rings are part of my collection of 20 years of beach hunting. Last but not least did you notice the coin in the EO with the square spike hole in it? I have two EO’s from the Jupiter wreck with a coin in them. One of these days my curiosity is going to get the best of me and I’m going to have to find out if they are Lima stars.
Gary

 

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Six - 16XX 2 Reales (Seville, Spain), 17XX 8 Reales (worn fleet coin, Mexican), 17XXJ 8 Reales (fleet coin, Mexican).

Stan

 

[Trez]

Hello all..........
I have been away from this for a while...and WOW !!! I get back and....lookie lookie.
You all have a tremendous collection of cobs, I have been smiling the whole time.
Congrat's to each of you....and most of all thanks for sharing.
I won't bore you with any from our collection, lol
But, I have had requests, so if you have some patience...I will post a few.

I will post you this one...tell me what you think it is and on what denomination cob.

Talk soon....again FANTASTIC Cobs everyone

Trez

 

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Hi Trez good to have you back
I will have a guess at your cob, 4 real Mexico, Looks like a Nazi cross, wow whats the story.
Cheers, Ozzy