Fans Roman Site - Day 2 - Great Day!!!

[CRUSADER]

Fan's Roman Site - Day 2 - Great Day!!!

Those that follow, will know I'm not one to waste holidays lieing on the beach. I'm always out in a field & this time its a Wheat Stubble field in pretty good condition for Wheat, as it was fairly easy to work. Conditions were OK most the time (a little hot) & we had a great view for the picnic.
We spent 6 hours 45 minutes trying to map the limits of this new site. The pot shards & roof tile bits along with the butchered bone tell us my hunch was right & this is where the Metal workers lived. Just a short distance from their workshops. (800+metres)

We predicted 50 bronze & 1 silver & were only wrong on the silver, strange really. (after getting 82 bronze)

52 Bronze Roman Coins (only some pictured, the rest to follow) - Best 1 Day Total this year!
New Emporer (for us) - Volvsian AD251-53
Roman Brooch Bits
Roman Hair Pin
Roman Steelyard Weight
Medieval Horse Harness Hanger
Jetton
Flatten Sesterius. Very odd as the proccess to roll metal wasn't invented until another 1000 years. If it were hammered, it was hammered indirectly with anther roller type object. I will have the experts check it out.
Evidence of metal working - blobs & broken bits..
My star find, just 15-20 metres from the car on the way back! Is a RARE Edward I Farthing in specimen condition. (better than book examples) Its the LONDONIENSIS type but I can't match it to any 'known' class. I will research a good contact.

 

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[UnderMiner]

Awesome, you guys have all the best history. Saxons, Romans, Medieval Kingdoms, countless battle fields, it's a treasure trove of history. You can even put on a diving suit and look for ancient artifacts in the sunken Doggerland!

 

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[tyrocksalot]

Absolutely ridiculous. Great research leads to greater finds, fantastic!

 

[CRUSADER]

Yes I think this one is yours...This type was struck from January-July 1280, before another die change.

Type: 7(i) S.1444, N.1052, Fox. Group II...Scarcity: Rare. Smaller face with a new crown that has spearheads between the fleurs. Straight bottom to band of crown.No punctuation.

SS

Thanks for the help.

The Class 2 your quoting was my best fit, but in North's book it states 'LONDONIENSIS - Reversed N's'. Mine has normal N's, so did this class have both variants? ie. Normal N's & Reverse?

 

[CRUSADER]

Congrats on your rare silver.

52 bronzes, that's crazy, 49 the other day..may have been a cache / hoard that got disturbed. It is hard to imagine that many random drops on a sigle site ? Just a thought.

Your getting a little confused with 2 different sites. This new site has only 2 visits this year. First visit was for 2 hours with 30 Roman Bronze coins & this one with 52, so 82 off this site.
But to answer the question, we can't be 100% sure that this isn't a small split hoard. However, they are not plotted near enough (spread over acres) for it fall under the terms of the Treasure Act & all evidence so far fits in with our normal distribution of single losses (or small multiples) over 100s of year of occuption.

 

[Rick (Nova Scotia)]

Your getting a little confused with 2 different sites. This new site has only 2 visits this year. First visit was for 2 hours with 30 Roman Bronze coins & this one with 52, so 82 off this site.
But to answer the question, we can't be 100% sure that this isn't a small split hoard. However, they are not plotted near enough (spread over acres) for it fall under the terms of the Treasure Act & all evidence so far fits in with our normal distribution of single losses (or small multiples) over 100s of year of occuption.

OK, as I said though "hard for me to imagine", because for me a dozen "older" coins from a site in a day is a good one, and I've only done that well 3 or 4 times. I tended to forget the "100's of years of occupation"

GOOD LUCK OUT THERE !

 

[Scrappy]

Absolutely amazing!

You fellas are rocking it across the pond.

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[Silver Searcher]

Thanks for the help.

The Class 2 your quoting was my best fit, but in North's book it states 'LONDONIENSIS - Reversed N's'. Mine has normal N's, so did this class have both variants? ie. Normal N's & Reverse?

That's strange...the one I posted all have reverse N's, and yours looked to be that type.

Must be this one then... Date: January 2, 1280 - July 1280, Mint: London Type: 7, Obverse: +EDVVARDVS REX, Smaller face with a new crown that has spearheads between the fleurs. Straight bottom to band of crown. No punctuation.

Reverse: LON DON IEN SIS, "Long Cross" with three pellets in each quarter. Normal N's

SS

 

[CRUSADER]

Roman Coins added to top.

 

[CRUSADER]

That's strange...the one I posted all have reverse N's, and yours looks to be this type.

Must be this one then... Date: January 2, 1280 - July 1280, Mint: London Type: 7, Obverse: +EDVVARDVS REX, Smaller face with a new crown that has spearheads between the fleurs. Straight bottom to band of crown. No punctuation.

Reverse: LON DON IEN SIS, "Long Cross" with three pellets in each quarter. Normal N's

SS

Excellent, so does this have a book ref? What is a type 7, it doesn't fit the normal classes.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Excellent, so does this have a book ref? What is a type 7, it doesn't fit the normal classes.

My source has little reference, this is what it says.

Reference(s):
W.7
S.-
N.-
Fox.-
Scarcity: Rare

SS

 

[CRUSADER]

My source has little reference, this is what it says.

Reference(s):
W.7
S.-
N.-
Fox.-
Scarcity: Rare

SS

THANKS, its only in 'Withers' book which I don't have;
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0951667173/rustictorenaissa/202-1227029-1229464

 

[antique man]

How'd you get so lucky? Keep it up find me some gold!

 

[CRUSADER]

UPDATE:

Hammered;
Thanks to SS who got it spot on, it's only published in Withers as a Type 7. I've had it confirmed.

Rolled Roman Coin;
(answer from a UK Leading Expert)
'Yes I have seen these sort of things before - that look very flat with hardly any indication of hammer marks - which one might expect. They are normally about 2-4 mill thick. Not really sure what they were for - if anything! However the smiths of the day were certainly capable of producing metal sheeting which to all intents and purposes looks like 'rolled' metal. Think of the diplomas that were issued to the army and the very thin sheets that they made into 'Curse' tablets. Not too much help perhaps as to what your object might be!'