Fake gold and real diamond!!!

[Turbo21]

I got out for a quick lunchtime hunt today with a buddy at the old park


Cold and miserable weather but it was worth it. Was digging lots of trash copper and brass. And got a nice repeatable high time at 83/84. On the eurotek pro. Dig a plug and see gold in the hole. Called my buddy over and unfourtanetly marked 10kt hge. The hge stands for heavy gold electroplate. The stone looked promising though with the heavy prongs and the fact that I can see the solder spot where the ring was resized. Got home and the diamond tester lit up like a Christmas tree!!!!! Not sure on the exact size. But it's a big one and looks close to a carat!!!

Now I have to decide to keep or sell

 

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[Turbo21]

You want to be sure the diamond tester can tell difference between a real diamond and moissanite, not all do..... Moissanite is manufactured in the United States by Charles & Colvard, Ltd. It is a potentially beautiful synthetic gemstone that looks like a diamond to the naked eye. It also conducts heat at the same speed as a diamond, so a diamond tester conducting heat conductivity testing (which is how most diamond testers work) will not distinguish it from a diamond. A moissanite has a value of 10% to 15% of the value of a diamond of similar weight and clarity. The most convenient way to test for moissanite is to use a moissanite tester. A moissanite tester puts an electrical current into the gemstone, and then measures how well the stone conducts the electricity as compared to a diamond. This method is fast, especially if you are testing multiple stones. http://www.loupe-magnifier.com/moissanite_testers.htm

This tester can not tell the difference between the 2. I did find that moissanite only entered the jewlery trade beginning in 1998. This ring was found inside a barbed wire area of an old park that has been closed to the public for about 40 years. There are large water towers. Inside the gates area. A friend works for a company that has the keys . And we both got to hunt the area for 30 min. So if it was a park drop it was from 40 years or older. There is part of an old wall where I found the ring that was part of a carousel from 1900-1940. Also not ruling out a drop from a worker inside the area

A qualified jewler will have to make the final call. If I get a chance I will stop today and put the mystery to rest

 

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[Turbo21]

Got the stone out of the ring and cleaned up

 

[MUD(S.W.A.T)]

Hate to crash this little party but... Quality imitation stones can fool electronic testers easy and often. If the stone is real, it was likely taken from great grandmas ring and put in that plated ring. Don't have your hopes very high, don't want you to get disappointed to much. It could be real, but in that ring that's the only way I see it being real. No one would put such a nice stone in a ring like that. Silver or not, unless it was great grandmas.

PS: Don't scratch glass with stones you think are diamonds. You can easily damage the facets on the stone.

Keep @ it and HH !!

 

[Turbo21]

Hate to crash this little party but... Quality imitation stones can fool electronic testers easy and often. If the stone is real, it was likely taken from great grandmas ring and put in that plated ring. Don't have your hopes very high, don't want you to get disappointed to much. It could be real, but in that ring that's the only way I see it being real. No one would but such a nice stone in a ring like that. Silver or not, unless it was great grandmas. PS: Don't scratch glass with stones you think are diamonds. You can easily damage the facets on the stone. Keep @ it and HH !!

Thanks for the advice

The only stone that can fool a tester is moisanite

Cz and glass will not fool a tester

 

[WHADIFIND]

I was in the business for over 20 years... never saw real diamonds in fake gold or sterling silver.... ever..... fyi...

If you only knew....

 

[bentdiggin]

don't get discouraged by some nay sayers. I have a silver ring with a gold coin that I have been told alot of the same things. My ring turned out to be genuine coin silver melted and a real gold coin made 150 years ago. Take it to a jeweler and have them put it to their test. But remember even if real. diamonds are not expensive usually.

 

[beez0404]

Take it to a jeweler if you want to be 100% sure. Why bicker about it?

 

[Turbo21]

Take it to a jeweler if you want to be 100% sure. Why bicker about it?

I already said I am taking it to a jewler about 10 posts up. Just didn't make it there today

Bob

 

[Garrett424]

That's crazy.
Who puts a nice diamond on a fake ring??

I guess it doesn't matter 'cause you got an awesome diamond regardless.

I'm gonna' have to go back and check my junk again after this post. I have a huge HGE ring with some stones in it but I just assumed they were junk. Now I'm wondering......
I guess you never know until you know right??

Congrats on a great find.

 

[masterjedi]

You all will see the truth in the end.....

 

[bootybandit]

Strange for someone to pay for a diamond that big, and not get real gold. Nice find, anyway!

 

[lookindown]

You all will see the truth in the end.....

So your saying its a moissanite?

 

[park pirate]

Nice find..

 

[pepperj]

Being involved with the auction, antique, pawn, second hand, scrap businesses most of life and I've been mildly surprised at the things that have across the counter. That been said a couple of gemologist friends have helped out in a few cases where I was on what I had or what somebody was selling. In the early to mid nineties stones where showing up in the shop that fooled the tester, lesson learnt.

The lesson that was discussed among the family was " A little knowledge is dangerous" We marked it up as one life's lessons and that saved us many times down the road as there's no better lesson that the loss of hard earned $$$.

Best of luck on the final report of the stone, a few bucks at a business that has a certified gemologist on staff will tell the truth.

One gemologists stated the facts, diamonds are generally set in gold, platinum, or one of the rare earth metals. There is "rare cases" that a ring will be sterling because of metal allergies, then that's it in a nut shell. Then he stated this "You have to ask yourself this, why would a diamond be in a plated base metal setting?"

 

[Backstrap80]

I switch stones around quite often. Im just an amateur and use regular garage tools. I know what jedi is talking about, I also buy and sell jewelry for fun. A stone that size is rare and a setting of any PM wouldn't be hard to obtain. Since its out, we can figure out more, grab a newspaper, put the stone over a letter and see if you can read the letter. Diamonds are made in nature so every single one has a flaw, look for dark areas of carbon inside the stone, look at the "table", is it a perfect cut all the way around most will be off a tad to cut inclusions out. Can you take some close ups of the stone against light with a loupe? BTW, The tester you used has to be set up for CT size etc, Saphires will ring red if the tester is set to high from the start. Good luck, 50/50 at this point as the tester used is of the lowest quality. BTW Diamonds don't have rounded cuts, meaning every cut you see should be straight-but angled to make it a circle. I really hope this turns out real but I don't know anyone who buys used tires for their Ferrari.

 

[testing123]

no updates?

 

[Brother Al]

I certainly don't want to start an argument but today lots of diamonds are actually set in sterling silver and rhodium plated silver settings since gold has gotten so expensive. You can buy diamond rings in silver at any major retail store and online too. I would not be surprised at all if it is a genuine diamond.
Yup. Truth be told diamonds are less valuable than gold or silver. Diamonds are not rare. Marketing giants like DeBeers tell us they are. Google the De Beers story. They had to settle and reorganize.

 

[OBN]

Great catch on the ring, One thing on rings..you just never know. I just found a 10k hge a month ago and it had the soldered joint also... it was from 1913 or 73, the saltwater had started eating away at the joint.

Truth be told diamonds are less valuable than gold or silver.

Size matters...

 

[WheatWaffle]

Nice find!

 

[testing123]

did I miss the update?