England has strong gun control laws, so how is it working for them..

[dieselram94]

diesel,

You have to watch the Canucks....he's probably loading up on frozen snowballs as we speak......lol.

You think I'm crazy.....backbacon makes Ronnie Hawkins look tame by comparision.....he was a tough ass guy from Arkansas that came north and never went back.....

Bill, I just took about 20 minutes straight of incoming fire from the north....no casualties as most of the snow balls were shot down by my many armed guards. It was kind of like shooting clay's. We are rolling out the big catapult as I type. My advice is to make sure your truck is parked in the garage so as to minimize damage from a stray snowball or two.....

 

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[Crispin]

Seems the left is totally mising the point again, big surprise... In a country with extremely strict gun control, it hasnt stop crime..... Did you know that aprox 58% of burglaries occur when the residents are home in England...

Just like in Chicago and in Washington DC, with extremely strong gun control laws banning guns has not made people safer, it has just made criminals safer to commit their crimes...........

Now you even read on multiple sites that the crime statistics authorities are reporting in England are either under reported or out and out cooking the books................

Info is here for all to read..... Since this is my thread I can lock it at any time I choose....

TH: You got to keep the thread open long enough for Dano to respond. I'm sure he has some great insight into this. You know you expected him to respond when you posted this thread. For Dano not to respond would be like me not responding to RJC's 75 minute video on Misinformation on psychotropics....

o...wait a minute...I didn't respond....lol.

On second thought, five to one odds says Dano does not respond.

Crispin

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

My locking the thread has nothing to do with dano posting or not posting, Point of post was to show even with their strict gun laws, it hasn't stop crime, just like in Chicago with 30 years...30 years of gun control it hasn't stopped crime they still lead the country with murders. Washington DC crime rate was one of the 2 top cities in the country till they removed the gun ban, when citizens are armed criminals think twice before attacking someone because their victim may be armed...Murders have dropped over 34% in DC since the gun ban was lifted.....

Between 2008 and 2011 if you compare the first six months of 2011 to the first 6 months of 2008, the same time immediately preceding the Supreme Court's late June "Heller" decision, murders have fallen by thirty-four percent.

Gun crimes also fell more than non-gun crimes.
Robberies with guns fell by 25%, while robberies without guns have fallen by eight percent. Assaults with guns fell by 37%, while assaults without guns fell by 12%.
Just as with right-to-carry laws, when law-abiding citizens have guns some criminals stop carrying theirs.
The benefit could have been even greater. Getting a handgun permit in Chicago and Washington is an expensive and difficult process, meaning only the relatively wealthy go through it.

Media Silence Is Deafening About Important Gun News | Fox News

Recently, sports commentator Bob Costas sparked a national debate after blaming Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher’s murder-suicide on the existence of firearms rather than Belcher himself. The 6’2″ and 238 pound Belcher murdered his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, with a gun before turning it on himself. Many gun rights activists felt this was in poor taste, as grieving families deserve the respect of not having their personal tragedy turned into a political football while funerals are still being planned.
Meanwhile, theWashington Examiner is reportingthat homicides in Washington DC have dropped to their lowest level since 1963. This is significant for handgun enthusiasts, as the Supreme Court ruled in favor of gun rights in District of Columbia v. Heller in 2008, thus striking down a handgun ban in the nation’s capital. Since the ban was lifted, Washington DC’s murder rate has dropped like a stone, reaching historic lows.

Read more: Media Silence Is Deafening About Important Gun News | Fox News


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The 2nd Amendment Makes Washington DC Safer

When only criminals and police are allowed to carry guns, private citizens have no real-time defense against violent crime. 911 response times are never fast enough to stop a shooting in progress. In the ’80s and ’90s, Washington DC attained infamy for its vicious murder rate. In the past, as many as 500 people might be murdered there in a single year. By the end of 2012, less than 100 murders will have occurred, representing a dramatic drop.

These murder rates are not just conversation pieces. For 400 less murders to occur means that 400 citizens of Washington DC are still alive to enjoy years on Earth with friends and family. It’s easy for people who have never had to defend themselves with a gun to armchair quarterback and suggest alternatives to firearm ownership in the event that the worst happens, but for those who have been thrust into a situation that called for one, a gun is often the only hope of survival.

For openly-gay Tom G Palmer, for example, a handgun was a lifesaver. In 1982, he was surrounded by 20 gang members who shrieked homophobic insults while threatening to kill him. Violence against gay people is a serious problem worldwide, and the results are often tragically fatal. Assuming he was about to get jumped, Tom brandished a 9mm pistol, dispersing the crowd. Tom refused to be made a victim over his sexual orientation.
The Right to Self-Defense Is Fundamental

People are sometimes put into situations in which it is impossible to survive without a firearm. Smaller-sized people have few options for self-defense when facing a group of attackers or a larger assailant with a weapon. Firearms are a crucial equalizer for women as well, thus enhancing women’s rights.

When the right to keep and bear arms is suppressed, people sometimes are plunged into these situations without a weapon of their own. Criminals do not fear gun laws. Most gun charges pale in comparison to the sentences the same person will receive for using the weapon in the commission of a crime. What difference does an extra six months in prison make when the person is already facing 3 life sentences? Meanwhile, anti-gun laws do discourage decent, law-abiding people from carrying weapons, thus allowing police and criminals to have a monopoly on the ability to unleash deadly force.
While it’s important to note that crime rates have been dropping for years before the Heller case was heard by the high court, murder rates had been rising again in 2008. After the handgun ban was overturned, the number of murders in Washington DC began to drop even faster and have now hit the lowest point since 1963.


http://silverunderground.com/2012/12/record-low-murder-rate-in-washington-dc-after-gun-ban-lifted/

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[Backbacon]

I'm not sure if personal attacks are allowed here? I have to brush up a little on my current knowledge of US law but.... Does this not fall under "slandering" an individual or "deformation" of someones character? Punishable by law? Clue me in if I'm wrong here please.

 

[Dano Sverige]

Seems the left is totally mising the point again, big surprise... In a country with extremely strict gun control, it hasnt stop crime..... Did you know that aprox 58% of burglaries occur when the residents are home in England...

Just like in Chicago and in Washington DC, with extremely strong gun control laws banning guns has not made people safer, it has just made criminals safer to commit their crimes...........

Now you even read on multiple sites that the crime statistics authorities are reporting in England are either under reported or out and out cooking the books................

Info is here for all to read..... Since this is my thread I can lock it at any time I choose....

Lol, gotta love that last part..."Agree with me or i lock the thread!!"........Sehr gut !

Only reached this post,still reading. I'll be back!.....and no Dieselrat, not cowering or waving white flags. Just sleeping and living life.

 

[0121stockpicker]

Can anyone lock a thread that they start ?

 

[worldtalker]

Lol, gotta love that last part..."Agree with me or i lock the thread!!"........Sehr gut !

Only reached this post,still reading. I'll be back!.....and no Dieselrat, not cowering or waving white flags. Just sleeping and living life.

Sleeping and living life,how do you know when you are awake?

 

[0121stockpicker]

Sleeping and living life,how do you know when you are awake?

Here we go with the matrix again!!

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

As I stated the original poster (op) can request their thread be locked and we will lock it. It has been this way since before I ever became a mod. I had threads closed where I was the op long before I became a mod....I know of no post where op asked that it be closed and we didn't close it for them. It has to be op, other wise it is mods decision.

You will note in TN TOS it also says any post or thread can be deleted at any time for any reason

 

[worldtalker]

Here we go with the matrix again!!

Simple question,how do you know you're awake?

 

[0121stockpicker]

Simple question,how do you know you're awake?

How do we know we are awake, alive, etc, etc. obviously one can not prove.

 

[worldtalker]

How do we know we are awake, alive, etc, etc. obviously one can not prove.

Sure can, I see that I'm awake,don't you?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

World talker if your not awake, since I am reading your post it would mean I am in your dream, please stop dreaming about me, its creepy. LOL

 

[Dano Sverige]

Why did you feel the need to warn about being able to lock the thread, without any provocation? That's a lot of politically based infighting rubbish you posted...just to lock the thread without reason!

 

[worldtalker]

World talker if your not awake, since I am reading your post it would mean I am in your dream, please stop dreaming about me, its creepy. LOL

To be honset with you TH,I don't fall into a deep sleep,I am conciously aware of what is going on around me while resting my body,getting sucked into a dream world can seem as it is really happening,until you WAKE UP!

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Dano, now you had your say thread is closed