embossed pewter button ???

[leddel]

found this today at an old colonial cellar hole looked like an oval button at first but now i'm not sure it says "warranted proved" around the top and just under theres somekind of bird (maybe a pheasant or rooster i don't think its an eagle) under the bird it looks almost like a crown and i think under that is a shield with 3 lions or lion like animals . it has a type of shank but its off center with a small hole .any help would be appreciated. thanks

 

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[72cheyenne]

Cufflink maybe?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

All I can come up with is the British crown and the 3 lions of England.

 

[Iron Patch]

It's not pewter and what did you do to it that made it so hard to photograph?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

The gilt was probably "warranted".

 

[Woodland Detectors]

olive oil sheen!

 

[DCMatt]

I don't think it is a button.

I did a search for the words Warranted & Proved together. I found old levels (tool) and swords marked as "Warraned/Proved".

Not sure that helps much, but maybe it will give someone else a clue.

DCMatt

P.S. Can you do a pencil or charcol rubbing of the image? It looks like a Pokemon to me...

 

[leddel]

It's not pewter and what did you do to it that made it so hard to photograph?

hey IP it is pewter and there was a little to much oil left on it , sorry
heres a few more shots of it with different shades to try to help ya make out the very grainy details
its a little to big for a cufflink i think , i hope these pictures will help some and thanks for some of the ideas that were already given , much appreciated .Dan

 

[Iron Patch]

It's not pewter and what did you do to it that made it so hard to photograph?

hey IP it is pewter and there was a little to much oil left on it , sorry
heres a few more shots of it with different shades to try to help ya make out the very grainy details
its a little to big for a cufflink i think , i hope these pictures will help some and thanks for some of the ideas that were already given , much appreciated .Dan

You should keep in mind how you took that first shot, would work great for things that actually have a green patina.

Don't leave pewter in olive oil for an extended period of time, it will eat down to the core metal.

Someone should know this. In a quick search the words and what looked like an eagle design were on an early sword hand guard. Someone should know this button.

 

[IronSpike]

Could it be for a drum or other instrument. Can't find a rooster coat of arms that matches. Don't ask why, but I'm thinking French.

 

[leddel]

It's not pewter and what did you do to it that made it so hard to photograph?

hey IP it is pewter and there was a little to much oil left on it , sorry
heres a few more shots of it with different shades to try to help ya make out the very grainy details
its a little to big for a cufflink i think , i hope these pictures will help some and thanks for some of the ideas that were already given , much appreciated .Dan

You should keep in mind how you took that fisr shot, would work great for things that actually have a green patina.

Don't leave pewter in olive oil for an extended period of time, it will eat down to the core metal.

Someone should know this. In a quick search the words and what looked like an eagle design were on an early sword hand guard. Someone should know this button.

sorry IP the shading in the first picture was misleading it did make it look like patina but there's only grey pewter color and dirt and it was a metal restorative and perseving oil (i didn't say olive oil) don't use the stuff . i hope your right about someone knowing or having an idea as to what it is .thanks

 

[Iron Patch]

It's not pewter and what did you do to it that made it so hard to photograph?

hey IP it is pewter and there was a little to much oil left on it , sorry
heres a few more shots of it with different shades to try to help ya make out the very grainy details
its a little to big for a cufflink i think , i hope these pictures will help some and thanks for some of the ideas that were already given , much appreciated .Dan

You should keep in mind how you took that fisr shot, would work great for things that actually have a green patina.

Don't leave pewter in olive oil for an extended period of time, it will eat down to the core metal.

Someone should know this. In a quick search the words and what looked like an eagle design were on an early sword hand guard. Someone should know this button.

sorry IP the shading in the first picture was misleading it did make it look like patina but there's only grey pewter color and dirt and it was a metal restorative and perseving oil (i didn't say olive oil) don't use the stuff . i hope your right about someone knowing or having an idea as to what it is .thanks

Curious what you're using any type of oil for on pewter? I really can't think of a purpose.

 

[One mans trash...]

"WARRANTED" and "PROVED." The two words appear together on British hardware. I find references to the words on tools and swords. Your thingee is a bit elaborate for a tool. I'd look to weapons. That bird looks distinctly like a pheasant, which in heraldry signifies a "person of resource."

 

[Iron Patch]

If I had to make a guess I'd say an early pistol escutcheon or butt cap.

 

[leddel]

intersting but wouldn't the escutcheon or but cap be held with a screw like in the picture ?? but it would make sense for the long sturdy shank to fit into a slot and be held with a pin , but the question is " to what" . thanks for the ideas

 

[IronSpike]

I mentioned drum as it reminded me of tripp's find.

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,232010.0.html

"Warranted and proved" rules out French. Also I thought it was a rooster, but can see the pheasant.

 

[Iron Patch]

intersting but wouldn't the escutcheon or but cap be held with a screw like in the picture ?? but it would make sense for the long sturdy shank to fit into a slot and be held with a pin , but the question is " to what" . thanks for the ideas

That is a but cap, an escutcheon / thumb plate maybe could have been held on a pin, especially if it had to rotate slightly. Again just a guess not really being a gun guy.

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

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[IronSpike]

Button on the 3rd pic on this link has the same shank. 'Spanish button' dating early 1700's to early 1800's.

http://www.thetreasuredepot.com/issue5/civilwar.htm

 

[leddel]

i think your right Iron Spike it seems to be a coat of arms but to what i have no idea , hey thanks for the help everyone.thats why this is a great hobby its fun to find the stuff and just as fun trying to figure out what the stuff is