✅ SOLVED edisto island sc...plantation find

[Wrecker58]

hello t-netters, my hunting partner recently unearthed this relic out of a tilled field we have been working on edisto island sc.
Theres history of the union forces camping here and then using cannon force to blow the original house down to ruins..we've been tilling the fields recently and everything from arrow heads, cannon balls, bullets, civil war buttons, and even revolution era buttons have surfaced!
this item came out the ground this past weekend in what we've finally narrowed down to be the site of where the slave houses may have once stood. Cast net weights, pottery, union officers buttons, etc. keep popping out of the earth here amongst the oyster shell and brick rubble ....this item is the size of a belt buckle and is of brass build. looks as if its of a colored man with a tool in his hand? not sure thats why i come to y'all!...looks to be cracked at the bottom..very heavy and very decorative..tell me what ya see! thanx for looking. we've unearthed quite a few unknowns so don't be alarmed if ya see this same story amidst different relics

 

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[gunsil]

I'm with CC on this. Cool find!!

 

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[CC Hunter]

The figural design is I believe, Taras son of Poseidon, riding a dolphin (smaller figure on the inner curve side), and Poseidon on the other side.

On the upper edge, the head of Zues is depicted on both sides, looking down on Poseidon and Taras.

Poseidon "God of the Sea" is often seen in nautical themes. A design such as this on a weapon, would be a choice for seafaring men.

CC Hunter

 

[kuger]

The figural design is I believe, Taras son of Poseidon, riding a dolphin (smaller figure on the inner curve side), and Poseidon on the other side.

On the upper edge, the head of Zues is depicted on both sides, looking down on Poseidon and Taras.

Poseidon "God of the Sea" is often seen in nautical themes. A design such as this on a weapon, would be a choice for seafaring men.

CC Hunter

CC how do you do it?Thats not a scythe!!!Thats the tail of a dolphin!!!Again....I feel stupid!!!I need to just sit back and watch for a while

 

[DCMatt]

The figural design is I believe, Taras son of Poseidon, riding a dolphin (smaller figure on the inner curve side), and Poseidon on the other side.

On the upper edge, the head of Zues is depicted on both sides, looking down on Poseidon and Taras.

Poseidon "God of the Sea" is often seen in nautical themes. A design such as this on a weapon, would be a choice for seafaring men. CC Hunter

OMG! He's right! It is so evident now!



DCMatt

 

[HutSiteDigger]

CCHunter do you know Dennis Cox, ever met him?? or just seen him listed in credits for artifact books,etc? and are you familiar with his hunt to the SC Islands in the 1990s with his group of relic hunters. If so I would like to know....

 

[CC Hunter]

HutSiteDigger,

I grew up in the Carolinas and began relic hunting on the Sea Islands in the early '80's.

Ever met Dennis Cox you ask?

The first trip Dennis made to South Carolina was 1987, and my father and I were digging there before that.

Also, I'm quite confident there have been many more hours spent with Dennis riding in my boat or digging relics with me, than ever talking with you!

CC Hunter

 

[DCMatt]

OK. Wow! I am humbled. I retract my "snuff box lid" guess.

After additional research this relic does appear to be a counter guard from a small sword or dagger.



Nicely done guys.

DCMatt

 

[CC Hunter]

You are on the right track now DCMatt

The reference you posted is Bavarian style with hand engraved depictions of hinds (female Red Deer) or fawns, with a faux antler detail at the curved quillon tips.

During Colonial and Antebellum times, these small dirks, daggers, rapiers, and swords were obviously quite popular in affluent coastal areas of the South, as I recall seeing various parts and pieces recovered on many occasions.

CC Hunter

 

[Wrecker58]

Dang! Guess im feeling safe to say this post looks more like a 'SOLVED' post! WOW thats amazing...

 

[Wrecker58]

Great work thanx yall

 

[HutSiteDigger]

CCHunter - I see Dennis at least two-fives times a month. Thanks for the info.

 

[CC Hunter]

CCHunter - I see Dennis at least two-fives times a month. Thanks for the info.

Are you guys still meeting for breakfast with the other relic hunters at the Battlefield Restaurant?

Next time you see Dennis, ask about the ordeal where the motor on the boat died, and we were stranded, eventually paddling for a few miles upstream in my aluminum boat, pouring rain with lighting striking all around!!! Or another time when the high tide brought out hundreds of snakes, and our boat landing spot had a snake in every tree, on the ground, stumps, limbs, in the water, and in virtually every direction we looked. Being I was the only one with snake boots up to my knees, and Dennis was hollering hysterically because of snakes, the job of retrieving the boat anchored out in the water was my job. The boat I was piloting (Jim's this time) was a deeper draft fiberglass, and was anchored out a ways. Snake boots are not much help when wading in water up to the waist. Thankfully I knew these were mainly harmless water snakes!

These are only a couple out of countless exciting episodes over the years.


The information you posted earlier though regarding finds on South Carolina islands was embellished a bit beyond fact.


Having known and associated with many knowledgeable and experienced relic hunters over the years in many areas, has provided a wealth of first-hand insight.

CC Hunter

 

[kuger]

......its a small world...sorry Hutsite,but I have to tell ya,I sat back and watched as that trap was set

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Yep! Still meeting @ Battlefield Restaurant : ) to go digging.... And yep i've heard plenty of crazy stories about Dennis before mainly involving down on those Islands like the time he got stuck in quick sand,etc But i'm glad you said what you mentioned because people tend too over tell the truth a-lot. Very awesome info CCHunter really appreciate it!

 

[surf]

I am continually taken aback by the depth and breadth of knowledge displayed on these forums daily. Well done CC Hunter!

 

[CC Hunter]

Yep! Still meeting @ Battlefield Restaurant : ) to go digging.... And yep i've heard plenty of crazy stories about Dennis before mainly involving down on those Islands like the time he got stuck in quick sand,etc

But i'm glad you said what you mentioned because people tend too over tell the truth a-lot. Very awesome info CC Hunter really appreciate it!

I've heard the quicksand story, although I was not there at the time. In all my explorations of islands throughout the coast, beginning as a young boy and spanning over three decades, I never once found nor stepped in any "quicksand". The Pluff Mud though in the tidal marshes can certainly swallow an unsuspecting fellow rather quickly. I've had to rescue a friend on more than one occasion from that!!!

CC Hunter

 

[AU Seeker]

I've heard the quicksand story, although I was not there at the time. In all my explorations of islands throughout the coast, beginning as a young boy and spanning over three decades, I never once found nor stepped in any "quicksand". The Pluff Mud though in the tidal marshes can certainly swallow an unsuspecting fellow rather quickly. I've had to rescue a friend on more than one occasion from that!!!

CC Hunter

I've been living on Hilton Head Island or just inland (Bluffton) for 39 years, and I have tromped all over many of the barrier Islands within 100 miles of where I live and I also have never encountered any quicksand, but I have many times waded, crawled, and "swam" for lack of a better word through many of the mudflats in the tidal marshes during low tides, I have seen many of unsuspecting individuals come out of these mudflats without their footwear, and I too have "rescued" several from the grasp of these tidal muds.

 

[bigfoot1]

an observation,
I sat back on this one even tho I had ideas.I followed it closely and read every post.I learned much.I am still in awe of the wealth of knoweledge available to everyone at no cost.I believe I now understand why I rubbed a few folks the wrong way when I was trying to solve it all.I have evolved.

I enjoy helping out but have been laying low untill I believe I have something relevant to contribute.I will continue to learn,refine my research skills,and become a valued researcher here at tnet.I will not be in a hurry.I posts this because there are others who may benifit from the learning curve and mission I am on.

this seems the perfect thread to lay it out there.....amazing skills displayed and all responses valid.

Proud to be a small part of it all.
pat

 

[kuger]

an observation,
I sat back on this one even tho I had ideas.I followed it closely and read every post.I learned much.I am still in awe of the wealth of knoweledge available to everyone at no cost.I believe I now understand why I rubbed a few folks the wrong way when I was trying to solve it all.I have evolved.

I enjoy helping out but have been laying low untill I believe I have something relevant to contribute.I will continue to learn,refine my research skills,and become a valued researcher here at tnet.I will not be in a hurry.I posts this because there are others who may benifit from the learning curve and mission I am on.

this seems the perfect thread to lay it out there.....amazing skills displayed and all responses valid.

Proud to be a small part of it all.
pat

wise words....and my sentiments as well

 

[yaxthri]

Wow... great solve CC Hunter...
The swordguard-part was clear to me from looking at the first pic but the explanation of the decoration's theme was brilliant!!

Great find, great ID!