Early militia button?

[Gregg3131]

Found this cuff sized button at old house site in Virginia. Any ideas?

 

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[smokeythecat]

Not sure, but use a toothpick only to clean it, unless you have some Andre's pencils. It may be a Confederate staff officers' cuff. The eagle faces the wrong way for a Union eagle button, but I can't swear to it!

 

[Gregg3131]

I definitely think its pre war. I cleaned back no backmark

 

[fyrffytr1]

Is it one two or three piece? Do the eagles wingtips point up or down. Please post some after cleaning pictures. My old eyes can't make out much detail.

 

[smokeythecat]

Yes, a better pic of the front would help. There were some Confederate locals that look kinda similar that had no backmarks. (I looked it up.)

 

[Gregg3131]

Photo

Yes, a better pic of the front would help. There were some Confederate locals that look kinda similar that had no backmarks. (I looked it up.)

Best i can do

 

[smokeythecat]

Ok, that is better. Two piece button, this is, after 1835, eagle facing right with wing tips down, wing elbows up, split wreath at bottom with a ring around the entire eagle. Correct?

What else did you find? I do have an idea, I'm checking it out.

 

[Gregg3131]

they look pointed down with the wings held close to the body

 

[smokeythecat]

I think it's a Confederate officers' button. Albert's CS-43 is similar in design. I can't find an exact match, but I think it's a local manufacture, and the "puffed" feature is sometimes seen on Confederate local buttons. I believe some of the Louisiana buttons that were locally made were made in this fashion. Any evidence of stars above the eagle? I can make out three arrows in it's left talon (our right side looking at it). That rim is quite unique. It's quite a nice find!

 

[Gregg3131]

Looks like we have a positive ID 63 BV in the book. Early militia button

 

[fyrffytr1]

Looks like we have a positive ID 63 BV in the book. Early militia button

OK, that would be GI 63Bv on page 32/33 in Alberts book. Except the wing tips on that button point up and you stated the tips on your button point down.

 

[smokeythecat]

Similar, but no cigar. The wings are in the wrong position.

 

[A2coins]

Great Id wow thats a cool relic