Eagle Man bust.

[Jusfieldreem2]

I have some universities looking at my artifacts now, a bidding war has started as well. No institution or individual archeologist etc. has seen all that natives have produced. When an apple cart is rattled just try to strike a balance.

 

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[Jusfieldreem2]

It rocked your world, as MJ sang.

We see posts like this on a regular basis. The OPs always believe they have something that they don't. None can ever be convinced otherwise. I've decided that I'll just keep reposting one of my standard responses to these threads...

Please take your find to any higher-education institution with an anthropology, archeology, native studies, or antiquities department. You will then have a definitive answer, which by the way will be that it's just a rock.

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[fishstick]

So let me get this straight. You know you've found something that's not been discovered or studied before but can't answer what time frame they're from? What makes you think it's anything at all?

 

[robertk]

What makes you think it's anything at all?

Perhaps he knows it's just a rock and is just having fun trolling.

 

[fishstick]

Wouldn't surprise me at all. No one in their right mind would think they are anything but NATURAL ROCKS!!! TROLL ON since you can't answer questions!!!! It's been funny tho.

 

[Whynotnow?]

I think it’s related to the aliens. You better get the artifacts to the congressional hearing, fast!

 

[releventchair]

 

[Jusfieldreem2]

So let me get this straight. You know you've found something that's not been discovered or studied before but can't answer what time frame they're from? What makes you think it's anything at all?

Most are from the Lenape Indians that inhabited this area in large numbers which has since become much less because of the " Broken Promise by William Penn.

 

[Jusfieldreem2]

Take an independent poll, where is your best? Anyone can critique a piece of art. Arrowheads are treated as art but aren't. My pieces were meant to be art, or serve as a replica of something much larger as well as ceremony pieces. Stop deflecting with youtube
where are your goods.

Perhaps he knows it's just a rock and is just having fun trolling

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Take an independent poll, where is your best? Anyone can critique a piece of art. Arrowheads are treated as art but aren't. My pieces were meant to be art, or serve as a replica of something much larger as well as ceremony pieces. Stop deflecting with youtube
where are your goods.

Remember what happened on the other artifact forums you posted on and argued with members that the rocks were artifacts. Trolling can get members kicked.

 

[lightspirt]

Why cant you guys just let him do his work and present it on here? Its becoming obvious that you want the tread shut down. Why do all artifacts have to be Indian and made out of flint? Cant people express their work and ideals? He is not presenting anything that is disrespectful or harmful to people. Why all the hate towards him?

 

[Gene Mean]

This thread has gone on too long. What a waste of time and thought.

 

[creskol]

Just for fun, here is a post I made back in 2010 that generated a some great critique. I appreciated that input.

Rock?? Fossil?? Arrow Head??? Tool??? What the heck is it?

1 3/4 inches long 1 1/6 inches wide about 1/4 of an inch thick along the center line and tapers to sharp edges slight longitudinal curve sort of a black/blue stone with lots of little swirl lines Any Ideas? Thanks a bunch!

www.treasurenet.com

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Why cant you guys just let him do his work and present it on here? Its becoming obvious that you want the tread shut down. Why do all artifacts have to be Indian and made out of flint? Cant people express their work and ideals? He is not presenting anything that is disrespectful or harmful to people. Why all the hate towards him?

Because posting plain rocks and saying they are Indian artifacts or artifacts is misleading to new members who come here to learn about Indian artifacts, and it causes problems on our forum, it is the same reason he was banned on the other artifact forums.

It is the same as the ridiculous "potable art" that occasionally pops up which is not allowed here either.

There is a museum in Japan made up of rocks that resemble faces, but at least they acknowledge that they are just natural rocks and pareidolia.

 

[Emil W]

The internet allows the uneducated a place to gather and spread their misinformation, attracting others of the same illogical mindset, joining forces in an attempt to influence others with the hope of furthering their ridiculase, baseless, factless claims. It's imperative that sites such as this don't give these people a platform.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

The internet allows the uneducated a place to gather and spread their misinformation, attracting others of the same illogical mindset, joining forces in an attempt to influence others with the hope of furthering their ridiculase, baseless, factless claims. It's imperative that sites such as this don't give these people a platform.

Spot on, I am so glad some members understand why, if allowed it degrades our forums.

If a member wants to post rocks and say this resemble something, but are just a rock that is okay, but posting plain rocks and claim they are true artifacts degrades the forum, the same as posting fake finds.

It causes problems that can cause long time members to break our rules and I don't want to chastise or reprimand members who have been here for years because a new member is trolling our forums with fake "artifacts".

Guess who ends up banned.

 

[DizzyDigger]

Justfieldreem: If these are "art", as you say, then it has to have been shaped by humans to resemble the subject item. In order to be shaped, a tool of some type must have been used to shape it with....agreed?

If there are no tool marks indicating being shaped, then it was shaped by Ma Nature. Stones shaped by nature are commonly known as "rocks". Cool rocks, but still just naturally shaped rocks.

If you can show us a tool mark on any of the stones you have posted it might give some credibility to your claims. Lacking any signs of being shaped by man, then you must accept the conclusion that they are just cool looking rocks.

 

[Peyton Manning]

Kinda reminds me of the Johnny Carson episode with a woman who collected potatoe chips that resembled faces and such

 

[Jusfieldreem2]

Why cant you guys just let him do his work and present it on here? Its becoming obvious that you want the tread shut dow'n. Why do all artifacts have to be Indian and made out of flint? Cant people express their work and ideals? He is not presenting anything that is disrespectful or harmful to people. Why all the hate towards him?

 

[vonfatman]

"work"
Not so sure.

vfm