Dowsing vs LRL’s

[aarthrj3811]

~EE THr`

How do you know the distance, if you haven't located the target yet?

When you find a signal line you know there is a target at the end of it.

The question is: "Who are the contributors to Art?"

I own 2 LRL’s made by Bob Yocum, one made by Bob Fitzgerald and a Ranger Tell. One made by Uniden and a few gadgets made by Dell. I also have several sets of rods made by US Steel Corp. I have some silver minted by the US government and some gold made by Mother Earth..Almost forgot..I have couple of Meteorites that fell from the heavens..

It is pretty simple to push buttons to get answers
..You start by entering a frequency followed by special numbers and symbols. You then push another button and enter the depth and it makes another calculation. You then push another button and enter a distance and it again makes the calculations.

 

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[EE THr]

Artie---

And you're saying that stray radiation from the calculator somehow influences the whole thing to swivel on the ball berings in the handle, and point in such a way that it indicates the direction to a target?

 

[aarthrj3811]

~EE THr~

And you're saying that stray radiation from the calculator somehow influences the whole thing to swivel on the ball berings in the handle, and point in such a way that it indicates the direction to a target?

No ball bearings in my handle…You also are missing the Human Machine Interface which in my case is 120 mili-volts…art

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The user interface (or Human Machine Interface) is the aggregate of means by which people—the users—interact with the system—a particular machine, device, computer program or other complex tools.
• This is where people and technology meet. This people/ technology intercept can be as simple as the grip on a hand tool or as complex as the flight deck of a jumbo jet. (Courtesy of the International Engineering Consortium)
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• A graphical, object oriented method by which an operator is capable of communicating with the BAS. Human-machine interfacing allows the operator to manage, command, monitor, and program the system. Also known as GUI (graphical user interface) or MMI (man machine interface)
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[EE THr]

Artie---

OK, so the whole, combined, mechanisms are rigidly affixed to the handle, and there is no swivel to anything, anywhere on it?

 

[aarthrj3811]

~EE THr~

OK, so the whole, combined, mechanisms are rigidly affixed to the handle, and there is no swivel to anything, anywhere on it?

No it is not rigidly affixed to the plastic handle…there is a rod that seems to be made from brazing rod. There are two plastic cups that it runs through on each end. The PV handle is held on by these cups. The end of the rod has been altered to hold the handle onto the device.. Just a simple way to make the device functional. ..Art

 

[aarthrj3811]

~SWR~

You'd think that for $450+ you would get bearings machined nicely into the handle.....but, no. You get a piece of #4 wire (or something equally cheesy) lumped into the PVC handle

Thank you SWR for looking at a photo and telling us that the metal part of the handle is #4 wire..As a certified welder it looks to me that it is a piece of brazing rod. I have burned my share of that type of rod.
Bearings and the machining would add costs to the device..There is no need to add that to the cost of the device..Art

 

[fenixdigger]

You should see what 50,000 euros will get you in Greece as far as a lrl.

Results, results and more results. I don't care if there are mouse turds and a dead frog in it, if it develops a signal line to a target.

One step further, If it allows me to guess 100% accurately, or "dowse" like Solomon, I'm for it. As long as something good ends up in the truck at the end of the day, It doesn't matter.

A device that works 100% would be priceless. I'm just saying,,,

 

[aarthrj3811]

Just in case SWR doubts my precious post

 

[aarthrj3811]

Darn SWR..You got something correct again…I do my research and conclude that it is wrong I make my view known..I have done the proper research on LRL’s and MFD’s and am not skeptical about them..They find treasure ..Art

 

[aarthrj3811]

~Woof`

Art, has it occurred to you that a skeptic couldn't possibly have invented that gizmo to "disrupt LRL demos", only a "true believer" could do that!
It's amazing the stuff that LRL apologists make up, your post is something that the rest of us could never have faked on your behalf, it wouldn't have occurred to us in a million years.

only a "true believer" could do that!

Yes and you guys are “true belivers”

I see fake EE’s who's job is a backhoe operator in his real live.
I see the guy with a RF signal generator operated by 6-- 12 volt car batteries
I see the guy that “palmed a target’
I see a guy that used to make and sell Dowsing stuff.

All these guys will do anything to stop a demonstration and they are all here on t-net..art

 

[woof!]

~Woof`

Art, has it occurred to you that a skeptic couldn't possibly have invented that gizmo to "disrupt LRL demos", only a "true believer" could do that!
It's amazing the stuff that LRL apologists make up, your post is something that the rest of us could never have faked on your behalf, it wouldn't have occurred to us in a million years.

only a "true believer" could do that!

Yes and you guys are “true belivers”

I see fake EE’s who's job is a backhoe operator in his real live.
I see the guy with a RF signal generator operated by 6-- 12 volt car batteries
I see the guy that “palmed a target’
I see a guy that used to make and sell Dowsing stuff.

All these guys will do anything to stop a demonstration and they are all here on t-net..art

Suppose for a moment that a guy ain't Irish and doesn't believe in leprechauns. He's gonna design a magic leprechaun gun to shoot leprechauns during the St. Paddy's day parade? You'd have to believe in leprechauns to do that! If today you have trouble grasping that principle, next time you attend a St. Paddy's day parade, think it through. If you don't see any leprechauns, spend a few minutes trying to figure out how to build a gun to shoot them.

Now if at a treasure show you've got one guy with an H3 and another guy with a Gravitator and they're having a contest, and the guy with the H3 can't even point the thing as something in plain view, and starts bitching about interference, and the guy with the Gravitator whips your dimmer gadget out of his pocket and hollers "Gotcha!", that's the scene we'd love to see.

So, your dimmer gadget, has anyone ever seen one in the possession of anyone besides Art?

--Toto

 

[aarthrj3811]

~Woof~

So, your dimmer gadget, has anyone ever seen one in the possession of anyone besides Art?

Darn Woof..Here are two commercial models…One is a little more sensitive than my home made one. The other is a body booster but can be used as a Weight Chex..My home made unit will cost under $6 to make..The other two cost $49 and $200…Art

 

[woof!]

So what do those gadgets do? The one with the cord, does it dim lamps?

--Toto

 

[aarthrj3811]

~Woof~

So what do those gadgets do? The one with the cord, does it dim lamps?

What part of checking the weight of the object do you not understand ? The one with the cord is a body booster that makes you body more sensitive. It also can be used as a weight checker..No..It will not dim lights...Art

~Art~

Darn Woof..Here are two commercial models…One is a little more sensitive than my home made one. The other is a body booster but can be used as a Weight Chex..My home made unit will cost under $6 to make..The other two cost $49 and $200…Art

 

[Carl-NC]

~Woof~

So, your dimmer gadget, has anyone ever seen one in the possession of anyone besides Art?

Darn Woof..Here are two commercial models…

Art, these were designed specifically to disrupt LRLs? Were they designed by skeptics, or believers?

 

[aarthrj3811]

~Carl~

Art, these were designed specifically to disrupt LRLs? Were they designed by skeptics, or believers?

I don’t know who came up with the idea. All I know is the first one I saw was on the belt of a Skeptic who was waving a gold piece and yelling You can’t pick this up…None of our rods would close…Art

 

[woof!]

Forgive me for laughing, but that story has the ring of truth to it!

Do you understand how it worked?

 

[EE THr]

woofie---

Sounds like suggestion, to me.

 

[woof!]

Artie, sounds like a suggestion to me!

--Toto

 

[aarthrj3811]

Lets see now..I told you how to make an inexpressive Weight checker…I told you how to test it using a dime. Quarter and a ½ dollar and you still do not understand it. Looks like the only thing that you can understand is stuff that is fake or made up information
Forty Four posts and still no answers

Art~
Dowsing vs LRL’s

We have been told by our expert non-treasure hunters many fairy tales in the last few months…They have admitted now that we can find treasure with our LRL’s but only because it is just Dowsing..The electronics have nothing to do with what we locate and recover. So as usual I have a few questions.
As a fair Dowser and also a LRL user I will tell you a few facts..I can locate a few flakes of Gold with a set of Dowsing Rods for a distance of @ 70 paces. A Gold Nugget which weights a little less than a ¼ oz for a little less than a ¼ mile. With all 4 of the MFD’s and LRL’s that I own I can find those same targets at a distance of 2 and 3 miles.

Could these experts please explain how this can occur if the electronics have nothing to do with the process ?..Art

~Art~

OK..here’s some more…When using Baited Dowsing Rods and I find a signal line the only information I have is that it is a Gold signal. That is the same information that I get from my rod type LRL’s. The only other information that I can get is the depth of the target. But I have to follow the signal until I reach the target to get the depth. Yes there are a few ways to size the signal if you know how.
When using my Ranger Tell on the same signal I can determine the depth of the object, the distance to the object, the estimated weight of the object and if it is a coin, bar or a ring….All this from the spot where I found the signal.
So how can I do this if the stuff in the box does not do these tasks for me ?...Art

~Art~
I done know much about Scientific Calculators just how mine works..You start by entering a frequency followed by special numbers and symbols. You then push another button and enter the depth and it makes another calculation. You then push another button and enter a distance and it again makes the calculations.
For the weight you simply have a (potentiometer) dial that you turn until the unit opens up..that is the weight…If you have done your home work you know how much weight is there. For determining what is there is a combination of different buttons..
The newer models are different from mine because Hp no longer makes the calculator that is on mine. It is my understanding that Ranger Tell is designing a calculator just for their products..And yes .. I always carry a cheat sheet with me to be sure that I always have the information…Art
~Art~
No it is not rigidly affixed to the plastic handle…there is a rod that seems to be made from brazing rod. There are two plastic cups that it runs through on each end. The PV handle is held on by these cups. The end of the rod has been altered to hold the handle onto the device.. Just a simple way to make the device functional. ..Art