DOWNFALL OF DREDGING IN CALIF: THE BEGINNING

[fowledup]

Wasn't/isn't just the loggers huge trickle down effect. They lost the same way we are losing now and no one learned from it. Simple- List a species as endangered (spotted owl 1990), create an area of critical habitat ( few million acres spanning three states), establish a plan where the environmentalists work with the government (northwest forest plan), finally limit (stop) the economic development in the critical habitat zones.
Twenty two years later you have a government hearing admitting it was a colossal failure, and note that the owl is still declining. Then to fix it you tack on a few million more acres (9 million total) of critical habitat. Funny sidebar some of the best habitat available has near non-existent populations. While hour at it don't address the non native barred owl from the east coast that has moved in and is competing for the same habitat. Nor do you address that they may be breeding so now what is a true spotted owl and what is a barred owl. Which in another twenty years will be its own subspecies they can list and start all over.

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[Hoser John]

Biologists will do a PRECONCEIVED end resultant study for cheap as biggest growth industry in insane eco kalif. Sham,scam and flim flam ruled the day as that horney lil'ol ' spotted owl will make love to about anything with wings. Old growth is sooo much bs. Right next to my facility in Redding there was a 40 acre empty plot with a single oak tree in the middle. Sure enough ma/pa s owl moved in and raised many broods there in the middle of a huge industrial park. Just like the eagles-they tried to run them off from the HUGE bridge building works here crossing the sac river,100s a trucks and men,steel girders being pounded into solid rocks 24/7 for months. They put traffic cones in their nest,speakers with sounds---eagles said up yours and have raised 4 generations in that very same nest. Same above Lakehead as I was jailed feeding them osprey in the nest less than 75' from the freeway during the Cantara spill---soooo much biological bs--now PLEASE don't get me going on what happened to the decimated fishing industry ocean style-John

 

[goldandbill]

The green agenda is very much alive- here in SW Oregon, Curry County had approx. 30 saw mills, we now have one.Gold Beach had 5-6 new car dealers, now none. Mining is being curtailed, next will be hunting, fishing etc. Even the ocean fishing limits have been reduced, few can make a living at anything related to nature unless it is Green or Gov.
The Red Flats is now being considered a possible area for nickel mining-already the greens are organizing against it, even though it could be done in a way that won't harm the GREEN. Mining could produce living wages, support housing/rentals, and all spin-off related to such. THEY do not want growth!!
All this also falls into Obama's master plan, have you all seen Obama 2016?
If you want to support the Nickel Mining in our county, contact USFS at 541-3600- they are accepting verbal and written comments till 12-13-2013.SPEAK UP!

 

[dredgeman]

The Last lead producing smelter in the USA will be closed at the end of Dec.
In place since 1892 with huge reserves to work still. The air board regulations were met and surpassed the last time. So the air board changed the regulations again. The mine cannot continue and will close.

When will people wake up.

 

[fowledup]

Was never meant to stay open! Why do you think homeland and the rest have been stocking up on millions and millions of rounds. Now we will pay three times as much to employ the Chinese and import it from them. Remember their toy making skills? Apparently lead is safer in China. In another fifteen years the only place left to work at will be Wal-Mart and Costco.
Just beautiful, I misspelled Wal-Mart and my tablet fixed it for me, gotta luv it. Let's try Amaireca, nope doesn't recognize that word.

 

[Mad Machinist]

Biologists will do a PRECONCEIVED end resultant study for cheap as biggest growth industry in insane eco kalif. Sham,scam and flim flam ruled the day as that horney lil'ol ' spotted owl will make love to about anything with wings. Old growth is sooo much bs. Right next to my facility in Redding there was a 40 acre empty plot with a single oak tree in the middle. Sure enough ma/pa s owl moved in and raised many broods there in the middle of a huge industrial park. Just like the eagles-they tried to run them off from the HUGE bridge building works here crossing the sac river,100s a trucks and men,steel girders being pounded into solid rocks 24/7 for months. They put traffic cones in their nest,speakers with sounds---eagles said up yours and have raised 4 generations in that very same nest. Same above Lakehead as I was jailed feeding them osprey in the nest less than 75' from the freeway during the Cantara spill---soooo much biological bs--now PLEASE don't get me going on what happened to the decimated fishing industry ocean style-John

John,

Fear has returned. The truth has returned. Many eyes opened, but still so many will have to learn through pain and deed what the truth is. The Cobra has returned and is waiting with open arms to embraced the newly minted. Our time is soon enough. Remember one thing, it is ALWAYS darkest before the dawn, brother.