Do you know if this is a coin or token?

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If this is genuine you have quite a find there. It looks like a Roman Coin from the 1st century. It is what as know as a "Tribute Penny". What you have is very odd though. Tribute Pennys are typically made of silver I have never seen one of gold. Do a Google search for "Tribute Penny Tiberius".

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Redwood bet me to it. Very very very nice find if it proves authentic, looks rreal but you would need to see a coin specialist.

Here is a link and yes they did them in gold. Should be the second coin down

Cheers Sasnz
 

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Can we see the other side? RPG
 

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definitely looks like a tribute penny but these are possibly one of the most recreated coins in the world.

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redwolf74 said:
If this is genuine you have quite a find there. It looks like a Roman Coin from the 1st century. It is what as know as a "Tribute Penny". What you have is very odd though. Tribute Pennys are typically made of silver I have never seen one of gold. Do a Google search for "Tribute Penny Tiberius".

redwolf
Great call, redwolf.
Where did you obtain it? Is it gold?


http://books.google.com/books?id=Lp...hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=11&ct=result


http://books.google.com/books?id=nw...&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result


"Render unto Caesar…" is the beginning of a phrase attributed to Jesus in the synoptic gospels which reads in full, “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:21).

The tribute penny is believed to be a silver denarius from the reign of the Roman emporer Tiberius (14-37 A.D.). The portrait on the coin's obverse (front) is Tiberius, who ruled during Jesus' earthly life. The abbreviated inscription read: Tiberius Caesar Augustus, Son of The Divine Augustus." The reverse shows a seated female, generally thought to be Livia, Tiberius' mother, with the inscription "High Priest".
 

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How did you get this coin? If real its worth quite a bit. If its a copy, its a very good one. I can normally spot them a mile off. Problem is the copies/fakes were made of real gold. Its quite hard to tell without handling & weighing. I give this a 50% chance of being real!!!
 

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If it was real then I missed a great opportunity. It was part of an E-Bay auction that I wanted to bid on but I got tied up at work and missed the auction. The lot of coins sold for $10.50 plus shipping....oh well. I hope it is real so someone is really happy.

NJ
 

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Possibly a copy. The coin in the link from sasnz has a longer thinner neck.
 

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CRUSADER said:
How did you get this coin? If real its worth quite a bit. If its a copy, its a very good one. I can normally spot them a mile off. Problem is the copies/fakes were made of real gold. Its quite hard to tell without handling & weighing. I give this a 50% chance of being real!!!
I agree with Crusader except I would give it a higher chance of being real, the colour is spot on for ancient gold, buttery gold as I call it :o
 

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I dont know ancients but it looks like gold to me. If its a copy, it is a good one. Has nice wear. Sale includes 2 Mercs. Odd combination of coins. I would have taken a chance for 10 bucks. But I would have to see the link. Do you have the old eBay link so we can view it, NJ?
 

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bigcypresshunter said:
I dont know ancients but it looks like gold to me. If its a copy, it is a good one. Has nice wear. Sale includes 2 Mercs. Odd combination of coins. I would have taken a chance for 10 bucks. But I would have to see the link. Do you have the old eBay link so we can view it, NJ?

BCH,
I intended on buying it but got involved in working on a report and completely missed the auction by an hour. I figured from Crusader's comments that if it was real it would be worth some decent money, if it was fake it may still be gold so worth more then I paid and if it was fake and not gold then I just over paid for some average coins. From the other items this guy has sold it looks like he just buys stuff then sells it on Ebay. He is not a coin dealer so that is why the lot is so mixed. I also think that is why it flew under the radar on E-Bay.

Here is the old link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130279658927

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Hmm, based on the fact that he is an antique dealer, with a store on Ebay, and with 6000+ sales, I would think he would have the common sense to research the coin and would have access to the reference material. It surely looks like gold, but I don't think this guy would let an authentic ancient gold coin slip away for $11.

Just my two cents...
 

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Out of curiosity, someone should email him and ask him. The sale is over he may be honest. It was a very odd lot of coins and tokens. He's a Power Seller with a 99.9 rating but may not sell very many coins with that odd lot. :-\ Some nice presidential tokens worth a buck each and an old Chinese cash coin. He admitted being no expert but should know what gold looks like.
 

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