🥇 BANNER Did I Really Find a War of 1812 British Hat Badge Today!?

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I was on my way back from working a few days in Ottawa today and decided to stop for a quick 2hr hunt at a site where I've already had some success at finding War of 1812 relics! :thumbsup: This site has been pounded to death by at least a half dozen others over the past 4 - 5 years, so I'm happy just to get any scrap of a relic they might have left behind! :laughing7: Well today it seems they left something really big for me to find! I found the large brass cruet stand base first, then the brass harness buckle. There was a ton of trash to get through on this area, so I took my time and dug anything that gave a solid non-ferrous reading, hence all of the trash.

I then got a solid 85 - 86 at 8" and thought ... "wow this must be big" :icon_scratch: then out of the hole came the hat badge! :o I dropped down to my knees, knowing full well what I had just found and all I could say was OMG, OMG, OMG, please let this be real! I had to take a quite a number of insitue pictures, as all the pics were coming out blurry because my hands kept shaking.

I will leave this to the experts here to help me I.D. exactly what this plate is. I can tell you that it's solid, heavy and still has some of the leather / felt on the back!

Thanks for looking,
Dave


Update

This piece is a Victorian Period (1837 - 1901) British Army Mounted Officer’s Breastplate/Martingale Badge

"This is a general service pattern, pre-1902 martingale badge, which seems to have featured a Guelphic crown, perhaps in association with Prince Albert. They were worn across the horse's chest. This would have been worn on the chest of the horse held by three straps, two on either side of its flanks from beneath the saddle with a third, central strap, running beneath the horses' chest to the girth strap. The strap originally attached the underside of the noseband to the girth, in order to keep the horse's head down. Either the badge or the leather pad on which it sits is in many cases heart shaped, reflecting that it (the badge) sits over the horses’ heart. There were also regimental versions and the crown changed with the sovereign, just as with cap badges and other insignia. Invariably martingale badges took the same 'garter' shape as that adopted as a template for Glengarry badges and, similarly, the centre often bore a unit motif."
Thanks again for your help on the I.D. Rick! :occasion14:

Here are a couple of pics of the piece after a light brushing with combination of beeswax & paraffin wax. :thumbsup:
 

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Hell yeah buddy! That deserves an IPA at the Dog :-)
 

GREAT find. Beautiful condition, and Congratulations!

Best Wishes,

Buck
 

Heh.............I'd keep pulling it out of my pouch saying...................COOL:laughing7:

Some day i'll find something.......................COOL.


Looks COOL up top Dave.....Grats dude!!!


GOD Bless

Chris
 

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Hey Dave.

No need to be sad, although I know how you feel. Still a cool find and if that place has been hit hard for that long at it was missed chances are very good that there are still goodies to be found. Banner vote in!
Thanks very much for your post and support Rebel! :occasion14:
I went back to the site today ... just wait till tomorrow night and you see the buckle & coin I found there today!

Best of luck to you bud,
Dave
 

I'm green with envy. Not as much history around here as up there. I flip out on a nice merc or silver quarter. I'm afraid I would rub the patina off that one playing with it. Congrats!
 

Congratulations on the Banner, not to mention a great looking relic! Wonderful piece of history. Hogge
 

HUGE congrats on banner! You are very deserving of it!

Thanks very much Dave, I appreciate it bud! :thumbsup:
Dave


Hell yeah buddy! That deserves an IPA at the Dog :-)
Thanks Abe, I'm blowing the froth off of a cold Pabst Blue Ribbon as I'm typing this! :occasion14:
Dave


GREAT find. Beautiful condition, and Congratulations!

Best Wishes,

Buck

Thanks very much Buck, always enjoys seeing your finds! :thumbsup:
Dave


Heh.............I'd keep pulling it out of my pouch saying...................COOL:laughing7:

Some day i'll find something.......................COOL.


Looks COOL up top Dave.....Grats dude!!!


GOD Bless

Chris

Thanks very much Chris! :thumbsup:
I did keep looking at it ... only because I had no idea what it was when I first found it! :laughing7:

Best of luck to you my friend,
Dave


;) Big Congrats Dave !

dawg
Thanks dawg! :occasion14:
Dave



Congrats are your banner find man
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Blaze

Thanks Johnny ... you-the-man!
Nothing quite like a little 'bunny' in the afternoon eh! :laughing7:

Dave
 

congrats Dave, well deserved that's for sure it's a beautiful piece.:hello2:
ZDD
 

I'm green with envy. Not as much history around here as up there. I flip out on a nice merc or silver quarter. I'm afraid I would rub the patina off that one playing with it. Congrats!

You have a lot of history in Texas lockster ... I've been to Fort Worth, Dallas, Houston & San Antonio an number of times and there's history everywhere in your state my friend! I was last there in 2013 and remember driving around with my associate in Garland thinking, man I sure wish I had more time to investigate Texas! I just love your state, the people and the smell of history there! :thumbsup:

Thanks for your post,
Dave



Congratulations on the Banner, not to mention a great looking relic! Wonderful piece of history. Hogge

Thanks hogge! I appreciate your post! :occasion14:
Dave


congrats Dave, well deserved that's for sure it's a beautiful piece.:hello2:
ZDD
Thanks very much for your posts and all your support Dave! :occasion14:
Hope you guys can get out soon,
Dave
 

Congratulations on your banner

I know we probably won't ever be seeing too many more of those posted up , glad to see yours made it where it belongs
 

Looks like you are now the King's Hand! (Sorta looks like the one from GOT) :)

What a great find!
 

That's an awesome find. Can't believe how great it looks after you cleaned it up. Congrats
 

Holy cow! What a find congrats! That is the find of a lifetime rite there. I'm dream about finds like that. There was fort very close to where I live and a grave yard for the soldiers killed or died from disease that was found when they built the courthouse in the town closest to me. They moved those graves but the front lawn of the courthouse still has unmarked graves under it. I do some river hunting here in hopes of finding NW Indian war artifacts and war of 1812 along with col Crawford battle that took place 5 miles from my house during revolutionary war. I hope someday to find something this special and finds like what you have is the reason I love detecting. Don't get me wrong I don't mind the old silver coins but war relics are what I really get excited about. Congrats again.
 

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Congrats on making the banner. I took another close look at your find upon it making the banner. It's in great shape with so much detail. Your find is a piece of history and a piece of art all in one!
 

Looks real good up top! :headbang: I love seeing military buckles or badges of any kind and yours is superb!!
 

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Sure looks good up on the banner ! Congrats Dave !
Glen
 

That is a great piece! Will make a nice display piece - Congrats!!!
 

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