Dere Street (Return Part Two!!!Gold)...Back From The Jeweler!!! Updated Pic!!!

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Hello all...

I am not going to bore you with a long story, if you have been following my recent posts you know were I have been detecting and the finds that have come from this area :o

I started the evening recovering my digging spade that I left here Sunday, it was lying right were I had left it :laughing9: managed a couple of Medieval spindle whorls and a few bits of lead, then another Medieval hammered coin of Elizabeth1 (1558-1603) half groat.

Later on in the evening I moved further down the road to a area that has produced Roman coins, again I had a further four bronze coins but the going was hard.

The area was becoming shorter by the minute so I moved to the slopes of the spoil heaps and this is were I found my best find, a nice crisp signal and I was flipping over the sandy soil, at first I couldn't see what had given the signal, then I glanced a glint of yellow in a small piece of soil, I picked it up and right in-front of me was a small Gold Ring :headbang: the colour gave it away as old, a deep buttery yellow Gold.

The ring is very small (13mm) and obviously made for a child, I am 99% certain that this ring is Roman :read2: and was probably made specially for the wearer.

This ring unfortunately falls under the treasure act and I will have to declare it :'( any way have a look at the pictures if there are any questions I will try and answer :thumbsup:SS...Updated... It's now two weeks since I found the ring, and I have just had the ID back by the UK Finds Data Base here's what it says, A Roman Gold finger ring 1st-4th Century, the shank has a broad,flat cross-section that tapers from the front to back. At the front there is an oval bezel made from reposse worked sheet-metal; it depicts a full-faced portraite in releif, surrounded by a raised border. The depiction is unknown, though the subject is almost certainly classical :headbang: :headbang:
 

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Re: Dere Street (Return Part Two!!!Gold)

Looking at the counterfiet again, it has so much charm. The SC in the 'field' by the single figure is a poor copy, they put the 'S' on its side, really cool find in my books :headbang:
 

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Wow that's awsome!
 

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:icon_thumright: Very Very Cool! :icon_thumleft:
 

Re: Dere Street (Return Part Two!!!Gold)

Oh Man! Fantastic Finds! Congrats! :hello2: :hello2: :hello2:

That ancient Gold ring has gotta be a BANNER Find!

HH Joe
 

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Beautiful ring! How does the government determine which items you can keep and which you have to surrender? Is it based on rarity,value etc.....? I think you folks over there are really fortunate to be able to find items with such age and history.
 

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CRUSADER said:
The coin pictured is a very nice conditioned counterfeit :icon_thumright:

The ring is a gem, your probably right with the child theory although they had smaller fingers & they never wore the ring over the knuckle, it sat between the knuckle & the last joint :icon_thumright:

I bet the BM will keep this one, I can tell 8)
Which Coin :icon_scratch: don't think so :icon_scratch:
 

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Detectingfreak said:
I would say that the gold ring is really old and should definatly go on the banner! What age is the gold ring?
Hi....I think the ring dates from the Roman times, but I'm not 100%, waiting for the full sp on this one :thumbsup:
 

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CRUSADER said:
Looking at the counterfiet again, it has so much charm. The SC in the 'field' by the single figure is a poor copy, they put the 'S' on its side, really cool find in my books :headbang:
I take it you mean couterfiet in antiquity :icon_scratch:
 

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muttandjeeps said:
Beautiful ring! How does the government determine which items you can keep and which you have to surrender? Is it based on rarity,value etc.....? I think you folks over there are really fortunate to be able to find items with such age and history.
Hi... :hello: any artifact made of prescius metal (Gold, Silver) and over 300years old, two or more coins of the same :thumbsup:
 

Re: Dere Street (Return Part Two!!!Gold)

Nice finds SS! Very cool ring.
The way things are going now, I am ashamed to say that the USSA may have a treasure act of some sorts before long.
 

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plehbah said:
I would take the 'Treasure Act' with its' faults over no detecting at all. The ring is awesome. The face is from a different age.
Thanks plehbah....but the act does have it's faults, the waiting time for one, meagre payouts another (grossly undervalued) this just puts
the majority of detectorists of, declaring finds :'(
 

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Gunny71 said:
Nice finds SS! Very cool ring.
The way things are going now, I am ashamed to say that the USSA may have a treasure act of some sorts before long.
:'( :'(
 

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Silver Searcher said:
plehbah said:
I would take the 'Treasure Act' with its' faults over no detecting at all. The ring is awesome. The face is from a different age.
Thanks plehbah....but the act does have it's faults, the waiting time for one, meagre payouts another (grossly undervalued) this just puts
the majority of detectorists of, declaring finds :'(
I'm not planning on reporting anyone, we gotta stick together here! but what are the penalties for not declaring a find? Fines, jail-time, seizure of finds?

I remember that beautiful stirrup ring, it's a shame you haven't seen it since! What's used to determine the value of an object? Is it all the red tape that slow the process so much?
 

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af1733 said:
Silver Searcher said:
plehbah said:
I would take the 'Treasure Act' with its' faults over no detecting at all. The ring is awesome. The face is from a different age.
Thanks plehbah....but the act does have it's faults, the waiting time for one, meagre payouts another (grossly undervalued) this just puts
the majority of detectorists of, declaring finds :'(
I'm not planning on reporting anyone, we gotta stick together here! but what are the penalties for not declaring a find? Fines, jail-time, seizure of finds?

I remember that beautiful stirrup ring, it's a shame you haven't seen it since! What's used to determine the value of an object? Is it all the red tape that slow the process so much?
The main problem is funding, also there are only a handfull of flo officers that handle all treasure claims in the UK, when a Museum wants to purchase a find they have to find the funds, this is why the delays can take time.

Rewards for finds seem to me to be getting less and less because the Museums simply can't find the money, so why should the finders loose out when there is willing buyers in the market , it's a problem for me that will get worse over time, with the flo officers losing funding which will delay the reports longer :'( I think at the moment you can appeal up to three times if you think the valuation is not enough (more time) :dontknow:
 

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Congratulations on all your finds. That ring has got some mo-jo to it for sure. Looks like a little dude with a helmet on or something. A very nice Banner. I say keep treasure hunting and take all the pictures of your road off of all your post and just show us insitu pictures and that way maybe you can hunt it for many years and keep showing us your cool finds. I think it was predicted that road would give up a banner find for you and it did. Congratulations Sir.
TnMountains
 

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TnMountains said:
Congratulations on all your finds. That ring has got some mo-jo to it for sure. Looks like a little dude with a helmet on or something. A very nice Banner. I say keep treasure hunting and take all the pictures of your road off of all your post and just show us insitu pictures and that way maybe you can hunt it for many years and keep showing us your cool finds. I think it was predicted that road would give up a banner find for you and it did. Congratulations Sir.
TnMountains
Thanks :thumbsup: but this project could throw up some spectacular finds over time :o it's a unbelievable opportunity which I must exploit :thumbsup:
 

Re: Dere Street (Return Part Two!!!Gold)

Silver Searcher said:
TnMountains said:
Congratulations on all your finds. That ring has got some mo-jo to it for sure. Looks like a little dude with a helmet on or something. A very nice Banner. I say keep treasure hunting and take all the pictures of your road off of all your post and just show us insitu pictures and that way maybe you can hunt it for many years and keep showing us your cool finds. I think it was predicted that road would give up a banner find for you and it did. Congratulations Sir.
TnMountains
Thanks :thumbsup: but this project could throw up some spectacular finds over time :o it's a unbelievable opportunity which I must exploit :thumbsup:
I agree with you 100%. Just hate to hear that in a months time there are 200 guys with metal detectors out there with you. Congratulations again I just read your other post. :thumbsup:
 

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