CZ-70

[RPG]

I see there is a CZ-70 on e-bay right now for $425. Isn't this supposed to be the ultimate detector.
This is the second time this detector has been up for auction. Last time nobody even bidded on it.
So far this time nobody has bidded on it. This is the one Easymoney always talks about. Just wondering
why nobody wants it.
Randy

 

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[RLOH]

Randy, the CZ 70 is still one heck of a detector. It is as deep as any made and built like a tank. I have a Minelab Explorer 11 and I like the cz70 just about as well. The last 100 silver summer I had, I was using a cz 70. They are still a great detector. R.L.

 

[lms7652]

Might just be because of tough times for some and things arent selling as good.

 

[LuckyLarry]

RPG

The cz-70 is probably the best all-around higher-end detector ever made...except for perhaps the nugget-hunting Compasses (GoldScanner Pro or Relic&Coin). And that is mostly because those particular Compass detectors do a superb job at finding BB sized nuggets and jewelry at 6-8" on West Coast salt beaches while nothing else in a VLF or Multi-freq seems to even get close. Minelab owners don't bother much with our beaches due to the high mineralization but many White's detectors are used here because (they) and the cz-70, cz3D, and other new Fisher , low end Tesoros, and the old Compasses handle the really bad ground we have here - the very best.

Surprizingly, my recent $25 used Tesoro Compadre gets the same depth on our beaches here as did my recently sold Minelab Sov, and any Minelab Explorer I've ever used or seen used by other owners here too.

My cz-70 running in "zero" notch-out even beats my Compasses on these high magnetite/salt beaches for depth. A cz3D does it too. Not by much, perhaps an inch or so. I use the cz about 90% of the time there, beating any White's Minelab, Tesoro, or Garrett, etc, so I just stick with it because it works. It's all metal mode though sucks a bit for depth - in all-situations. It's zero notch is a much deeper searching all-metal mode.

One of the cz-70's only two flaws are that when used is SEVERELY bad conditions such as in beds of pure iron ore it will NOT and CANNOT detect a nickle at all when notching out iron (again, in really BAD soil). There is too much iron discrimination built into that mode for it to work properly. Of course that is true with other brands now and then too.

The other real flaw of the cz-70 is that it's stock coil is really inferior for nugget hunting. In all other cases or all other soil conditions it is still probably the best all-around detector ever made, except for the Compass Scanner series, that is. It is balanced better and handles better than the old Compasses though. It has a very large grip. It's ground balance setting is very forgiving and easy to adjust.

Hope this helps.

Larry

 

[gmanlight]

LLarry good to read your stuff again I run a F75 most of the time but wanted a backup As you know

the F75 can have EMI trouble and is good but not great on the beach

Picked up a clean CZ 70 runs great on the beach rain proof and solid as any

Great combo cant wait till spring to try some head to head test Thanks Mike G

 

[outtair]

Randy,
I love my CZ-70, I hunt Civil War Relics and I kick my buddies butt everytime we go. It does not do as good on coins and I have to dig bigger holes on pinpointing. I figure it is so deep seeking that pinpointing is off. I would not know what to get if I had to retire the CZ-70.
Tim

 

[LuckyLarry]

RPG, as you already know, LuckyLarry is the same person as EasyMoney. We are one and the same. Something got messed up awhile ago and I got this new handle. Good to know you are still on here.

Gman the cz-70 running with zero discrimination (o notch) is one real mean SOB. Yes, the F-75 is certainly more sensitive than the cz-70, especially to tiny items, but the pair would be a great combo, for sure. I wouldn't want to place any bets but a well-known detector engineer used a cz3d with 10.5 coil to match the other detector's coil size and whipped two different Explorers, a DFX, and a Garrett 2500 for all-out (discrimination) depth in a field in Virginia somewhere. It did a bit better than the F-75 too, but the F-75 is a whole lot better cherry-picker period. The cz3d discrimination mode runs a bit deeper than the cz-70 too - but nobody really knows why, not even Fisher.

LuckyLarry AKA "EasyMoney"

 

[Sky Pilot]

RPG, skypilot02 here! I agree with the above statements wholeheartedly! My CZ-70 Pro lasts forever on two nine volt batteries, and the relic star icon lets you know if it's more than 2-3" deep, it probably will be something good, 3" or less, probably a tab. One peculiarity I have noticed with all my CZ series land detectors, in my area, (East Tennessee), is the fact that if I notch out iron, the really deeep small iron will occasionally give a repeatable coin reading, but with a little use, you'll be able to tell by the whine that you're not over a deep coin. But, I dig it anyway! Call me a sucker!! LOL!! Great hunting and good luck!! Regards, Richard.

 

[LuckyLarry]

One other thing I've noticed about my cz-70 Pro is that so far... EVERY time I've gotten a signal that read "relics" - it was a piece of brass or lead, usually a shotgun or rifle/pistol shell.

LL

 

[quest]

How dose the CZ-70 compare to the F70?

 

[Sky Pilot]

Quest, Is that a trick question? Just kidding! LOL!! I'll offer my opinions, since no one has replied yet. I'll list what I believe to be the advantages first. First: Obviously the weight. The coil and the control box are more ergonomically friendly. Second: The ability to discriminate is much more adjustable on the F70. The CZ has iron and so on in distinct categories, which is not the optimal situation. Third: Pinpointing with the F70 is much better than the CZ, more than likely due to coil design. Fourth: The F70 has the ability to assign VDI numbers to each target, which, when used in conjunction with the sound of said target, greatly improves the ability to correctly ID an object. Fifth: The F70 has an extreme depth ability, even when compared to the CZ. Sixth: Target separation is much better, again, perhaps due to coil design. Seventh: The F70 has the option to change frequencies, if the need arises. This is a few of the advantages that I consider major. Now for the negatives; First: The F70 is not built as sturdy as the "tank" design of the CZ. Second: The F70 has no backlight, but that is no problem, really, unless you hunt at night a lot, and even then, is easily remedied. Third: The CZ is water resistant without a cover, and the F70 is not. (Again, not a problem if you don't hunt in heavy fog or light rain.) Fourth: The F70 has a verrry shiny display cover, which I've found to be quite aggravating in direct sunlight. This sums up my opinion of what I consider major disadvantages. Similarities include extremely long battery life for both, extreme depth for both, both are fairly easy to become accustomed to, (although, of course, the F70, being more adjustable to various situations, may take a little longer to adapt to), and the fact that if there is a target in the ground, and your coil goes over it, both will let you know!! Hope this helps!! Great hunting and good luck!! Regards, Richard.

 

[LuckyLarry]

Good rundown Sky.

Did you forget to mention that the f-70 chatters in some places even with it's freq change ability, where the cz-70 does not and will not?

And what about the fact that the light on the cz-70 will suck the life right out of a good battery in a heartbeat?

And that the F-70 is a much better nugget/fine gold hunter than the cz-70?

LL

 

[Sky Pilot]

LL, All very valid points, and I should have included those!! No excuse, just didn't think of them!! Great catch, Larry! Great hunting and good luck!! Regards, Richard.

 

[cheese]

I love my CZ7. It's basically the same detector as the CZ70 but without the 4th tone and the relic ID.

I almost always get my share if not the lions share of finds when I hunt with other people. When it says nickel in every direction every time, you better believe it's a nickel. It does get a false signal at times on small very rusty deep iron, but time will allow you to learn when that is the case. It is a deep seeking coin finder for sure. They came with lifetime warranties because they were built that good. I've looked into other machines that were all the rage when they came out, but the CZ still stands above the rest at the end of the day. I guess that's why it's usually hard to find many folks willing to sell one. (been looking to buy one for my wife).