Cru'Dads Cartwheel Combo...

[CRUSADER]

No, it wasn't Cru'Dad cartwheeling across the field, as he got another Gold Stater. It was the first time we have ever found a 1797 Two-penny. Funny how it happened, he started off finding the 1797 Penny, & I stated we still have had a two-penny yet, & after Lunch he got one! Matching set on the same day.
Our detecting window was only 3 hours 45 minutes on the 2nd of the Barley Stubble Fields. I was expecting lots of average finds & hoped for 1 hammered, & strangely enough a nice 17th C Token - Dad got one of them.

1 scrappy (first ever from this field)
17th C Button
2 Lead Powder Flask Lids (17th C)
1797 Penny & Two-penny
1920 Halfcrown (rare find for us)
London 17th C Token (no book price, so a rare example in great condition)

Surprise find whilst cleaning the scrap lead- Found a Circa 14th C Lead Trade Weight - Very little is known about the early countermarks, & very few survived as the lead was melted down for re-use. Seeking expert opinion, as the Long Cross in circle punch is not one I can find. The Sword represents London, so some detail but not enough to date it.
PS. I'm beginning to wonder if the other hole is an I, & maybe a faint Crown over it - That would make it James I, so later than I first thought.
UPDATE FROM EXPERT;
''The only thing that is clear is that this is intended to be a fourounce weight. The sword/dagger is very like
the mark used in London by the Plumber's Company in the reigns of James I to George II, but their weights
also had the crowned initial and the 'angel and scales'. Theround mark is similar to ones used elsewhere
to denote the denomination, but usually a four ounce weight would have four such marks.''

 

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[Bill D. (VA)]

That was quite a day guys even without a hammy. Congrats to your dad on those cartwheels, but my favorite is that gorgeous 17thC token. Great hunt!

 

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[terpfan]

Those cartwheels sure were huge chunks of metal. I can't recall seeing one posted before. Even though its not a rare coin, it must be nice for you and Cru-Dad to check this one off the list.

 

[Westfront]

Beautiful Token! Like to find a Cartwheel Penny tho.

 

[IAMZIM]

As always, tokens are my favorite find! I really like that token! One day I hope to come over there to find one for myself to add to my collection! (A tavern token would be my holy grail find)

 

[CRUSADER]

Those cartwheels sure were huge chunks of metal. I can't recall seeing one posted before. Even though its not a rare coin, it must be nice for you and Cru-Dad to check this one off the list.

There have been a lot of 1 Penny's, its the 2 Penny that is hard to find. (Well for us it has been)

 

[CASPER-2]

 

[CRUSADER]

UPDATE from Expert on Lead Weights;

''The only thing that is clear is that this is intended to be a fourounce weight. The sword/dagger is very like
the mark used in London by the Plumber's Company in the reigns of James I to George II, but their weights
also had the crowned initial and the 'angel and scales'. The round mark is similar to ones used elsewhere
to denote the denomination, but usually a four ounce weight wouldhave four such marks.''

So, its clear there is still lots to learn from these rare survivors.

 

[BuckleBoy]

I would be thrilled to find a Cartwheel. Something about those big, hefty coppers from around the late 1800s. Was SUPER jealous when my wife dug a 2 Sols French coin from the same time period!

Congrats to CruDad and to you on the great finds. That token is in excellent condition!

-Buck