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No, it wasn't Cru'Dad cartwheeling across the field, as he got another Gold Stater.:laughing7: It was the first time we have ever found a 1797 Two-penny. Funny how it happened, he started off finding the 1797 Penny, & I stated we still have had a two-penny yet, & after Lunch he got one! Matching set on the same day.
Our detecting window was only 3 hours 45 minutes on the 2nd of the Barley Stubble Fields. I was expecting lots of average finds & hoped for 1 hammered, & strangely enough a nice 17th C Token - Dad got one of them.:thumbsup:

1 scrappy (first ever from this field)
17th C Button
2 Lead Powder Flask Lids (17th C)
1797 Penny & Two-penny
1920 Halfcrown (rare find for us)
London 17th C Token (no book price, so a rare example in great condition)8-)

Surprise find whilst cleaning the scrap lead- Found a Circa 14th C Lead Trade Weight - Very little is known about the early countermarks, & very few survived as the lead was melted down for re-use. Seeking expert opinion, as the Long Cross in circle punch is not one I can find. The Sword represents London, so some detail but not enough to date it.
PS. I'm beginning to wonder if the other hole is an I, & maybe a faint Crown over it - That would make it James I, so later than I first thought.
UPDATE FROM EXPERT;
''The only thing that is clear is that this is intended to be a fourounce weight. The sword/dagger is very like
the mark used in London by the Plumber's Company in the reigns of James I to George II, but their weights
also had the crowned initial and the 'angel and scales'. Theround mark is similar to ones used elsewhere
to denote the denomination, but usually a four ounce weight would have four such marks.''
 

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Please forgive my ignorance. I was looking for gold as you stated in your description. I don't see a gold coin. Am I blind?
 

Congrats, a wonderful hunt for both you and your dad!! Thanks for sharing Cru!
 

Please forgive my ignorance. I was looking for gold as you stated in your description. I don't see a gold coin. Am I blind?

Not stated, just joked. The Cartwheel is another name for the 1797 Penny.
 

OK, I understand it now!! You could have been doing cartwheels because you found a gold stater however you found a cartwheel. Thank you for your clarification!! Although seeing a gold stater would have been sweet. Get back to work!!

Our silver dollars over here were called cartwheels. They were not popular to carry or use.
 

Congratulations on the finds. Thank you for sharing your hunt. Wonderful that you and dad share this hobby.
 

Excellent finds. I've yet to find a cartwheel.

I'm not sure why, but I've found tons of 1770's KG's, but have a gap until the 1806/07's. I've dug a bunch of those as well.

Congrats, and nice buckle too
 

Nice finds. My only foreign silver is a 1918 half crown. Isn't the 1920 the last year they were sterling?
 

Nice finds. My only foreign silver is a 1918 half crown. Isn't the 1920 the last year they were sterling?
Nope, 1919, this is 50% silver
 

OK, I understand it now!! You could have been doing cartwheels because you found a gold stater however you found a cartwheel. Thank you for your clarification!! Although seeing a gold stater would have been sweet. Get back to work!!

Our silver dollars over here were called cartwheels. They were not popular to carry or use.

These were unpopular as well, they were 1oz & 2oz, imagine carrying just 20 pennies.
 

These were unpopular as well, they were 1oz & 2oz, imagine carrying just 20 pennies.

Even more reason they didn't end up on a ship and over in America. Unless a ship needed ballast
 

Excellent hunt you guys had. :thumbsup: I'm still looking for one of those spectacle buckles. I'm pretty sure most of the sites I'm hunting don't have the age for finds like that.
 

Aww, i was looking forward to seeing cru-dads spins of joy!
.....maybe next time.
But those are awesome finds!
Congrats!
 

Cool token, nice big silver, and I quite like the little buckle as well.

I was so excited to find my first cartwheel in England, I almost did a cartwheel! Thanks to posts like this I knew exactly what it was when I dug it up.
 

Another killer hunt, congratulations! :notworthy:
 

Thanks for the post. For me,, all of your posts are educational. Some of your finds are truly fascinating and that is reflected in the 23 banners you have earned.
Congrats on another great hunt by you and Cru-dad.
 

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