Cru delivers on Fireworks Night......

[CRUSADER]

Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

I promised Shaun7 the trip of a lifetime & a hammered. Delivered my promise.

Shaun7 was due to try the 2nd Fav Field again before the end of the year. It all fell though. So I swapped a box of scrap lead for a days detecting (for the 2 of us) with a Pro detectorist. He's made a living for over 25 years through metal detecting. He took us on a field which he said he had found 6000 roman coins on.

Shaun7 dug the first bronze roman coin about 30 seconds before me. I will let him tell the rest.

We detected from 0900-1630 with just a short coffee break. No food needed

Just before our coffee break I finished my gridding & headed quickly towards Shaun7 swing madly as I went. I just heard a clip of a signal. I stopped, looked down & picked up a Celtic Silver Unit of the Iceni tribe right from the surface. My third this year.

Billion Antoninianus (mostly silver) Postumus AD260-65 - Colon Germany
10 Roman bronze coins
Nice Early Medieval English or French Jetton - new type
Fantail Roman Brooch - new type

I was desperately trying to get a hammered to make it a Celtic, Roman & Medieval silver trifecta. Something I have never done, & still haven't done. Not even the Pro got a hammered, so I was in good company. Anyway who can complain at a day like this!

 

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[jgowans]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Amazing finds you folks have over there. Makes me want to cross the pond for a visit.
But then again all I manage to find is scrap iron......

 

[DCMatt]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Nice digs. Nicer jesture.

You're a good man, Cru'.

DCMatt

 

[bootybay]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Cru, Happy Guy Fawkes day to ya..... nice nice finds as usual..

booty

 

[woody50]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Great finds, and good idea to trade that stuff! Both found great stuff, but who got wat here, you a silver unit, but what about the rest, Shaun what goodys did you pop out of the ground? One day you will get all 3 in a row Cru.... So Cru-dad had to work?

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Great finds, and good idea to trade that stuff! Both found great stuff, but who got wat here, you a silver unit, but what about the rest, Shaun what goodys did you pop out of the ground? One day you will get all 3 in a row Cru.... So Cru-dad had to word did he?

Shaun will post later. This is all mine.

Dad was working which meant Shaun could use the spare Cortes. He wants one He was also my chauffeur.

 

[shaun7]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

I promised Shaun7 the trip of a lifetime & a hammered. Delivered my promise.

Shaun7 was due to try the 2nd Fav Field again before the end of the year. It all fell though. So I swapped a box of scrap lead for a days detecting (for the 2 of us) with a Pro detectorist. He's made a living for over 25 years through metal detecting. He took us on a field which he said he had found 6000 roman coins on.

Shaun7 dug the first bronze roman coin about 30 seconds before me. I will let him tell the rest.

We detected from 0900-1630 with just a short coffee break. No food needed

Just before our coffee break I finished my gridding & headed quickly towards Shaun7 swing madly as I went. I just heard a clip of a signal. I stopped, looked down & picked up a Celtic Silver Unit of the Iceni tribe right from the surface. My third this year.

Billion Antoninianus (mostly silver) Postumus AD260-65 - Colon Germany
10 Roman bronze coins
Nice Early Medieval English or French Jetton - new type
Fantail Roman Brooch - new type

I was desperately trying to get a hammered to make it a Celtic, Roman & Medieval silver trifecta. Something I have never done, & still haven't done. Not even the Pro got a hammered, so I was in good company. Anyway who can complain at a day like this!

it certainly was the trip of a lifetime

i think you gave the game away in your opening sentence! i found a hammered!.....i found a hammered!!!!

 

[allen]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

way to go on those relics and good looking coins...

 

[curbdiggercarl57]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Amazing stuff, once again!

 

[wwwtimmcp]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

hey crusader what is the item on the bottom of picture 2 ?

 

[Magic Fingers]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Happy Guy Fawkes day!
My brother was born Nov 5th in England and the doctors wanted them to name him Guy or sparky....lol

Great finds once again.


Donna

 

[woody50]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Great finds, and good idea to trade that stuff! Both found great stuff, but who got what here, you a silver unit, but what about the rest, Shaun what goodies did you pop out of the ground? One day you will get all 3 in a row Cru.... So Cru-dad had to word did he?

Shaun will post later. This is all mine.
Dad was working which meant Shaun could use the spare Cortes. He wants one He was also my chauffeur.

OK, understand. Yes I know that Shaun wants a Cortes, have tried to find one for him, had found one in the USA but he needed to find the cash for it first. Been looking around for another here in Europe but not found a good deal yet. Its also a bad time of the year to invest in a new MD, Xmas around the corner and such. But on the other hand there are people who need cash at this time and sell stuff...

Wow! So you got to ride in the Shaun auto again? That's really outstanding! Did he have to empty out the car and hide everything in the bushes again? I guess by now he has washed and vacuumed out the auto for guests.

 

[Bavaria Mike]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Awesome bunch of finds there Crusader! Any idea why so many German Jettons, especially from Nurenberg, are found in England? I have found a few from Hans Krauwincel (mid 1500s) similar to the ones you just found. Congrats and HH, Mike

 

[woody50]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Awesome bunch of finds there Crusader! Any idea why so many German Jettons, especially from Nurenberg, are found in England? I have found a few from Hans Krauwincel (mid 1500s) similar to the ones you just found. Congrats and HH, Mike

Mike we find very many here in Holland too, I would estimate that 90% are from Nurenberg. I guess that was the biggest producer in Europe at that time from the things. I am wondering if the composition of the jetons were modified for certain countries though, the Nurenberg jetons that we find here in Holland are in great condition, you really don't have to clean about 85% of them, just brush them off. But the ones found in England are in quite poor condition, they actually look like old English copper coins, and appear somewhat thicker too. Maybe they made those with more copper in them?

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Awesome bunch of finds there Crusader! Any idea why so many German Jettons, especially from Nurenberg, are found in England? I have found a few from Hans Krauwincel (mid 1500s) similar to the ones you just found. Congrats and HH, Mike

I'll add to what woody said by saying that;

The 16th century saw a vast flood of Jettons from Nuremburg. The reason that a relatively small city in Germany came to dominate the European Jetton trade was as follows:
It was down to the social structure & power of the Nuremburg trade Guilds. They operated as a 'locked-up' city, which meant all apprentices became bound by Law to not leave the city once their apprenticeship had finished. They also intermarried & brought their sons & daughters into the business. This ensured a competitive advantage & they undercut the French & any others that stood in the way. In fact they copied many of the French examples to start with & then drove down the prices. In a way it was the being of European capitalism.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

hey crusader what is the item on the bottom of picture 2 ?

Good question.

Its the first one I have found, I have seen similar & there is some debate as to what they are.

Its a scooped shaped implement, in fact it has a smaller scoop on the other side. Clearly the main body of the handle is bust off. The Pro thought it was to do with Musket ball making. I think it more likely an implement for measuring out powder of some description. To be honest, I don't know.

 

[woody50]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Awesome bunch of finds there Crusader! Any idea why so many German Jettons, especially from Nurenberg, are found in England? I have found a few from Hans Krauwincel (mid 1500s) similar to the ones you just found. Congrats and HH, Mike

I'll add to what woody said by saying that;

The 16th century saw a vast flood of Jettons from Nuremburg. The reason that a relatively small city in Germany came to dominate the European Jetton trade was as follows:
It was down to the social structure & power of the Nuremburg trade Guilds. They operated as a 'locked-up' city, which meant all apprentices became bound by Law to not leave the city once their apprenticeship had finished. They also intermarried & brought their sons & daughters into the business. This ensured a competitive advantage & they undercut the French & any others that stood in the way. In fact they copied many of the French examples to start with & then drove down the prices. In a way it was the being of European capitalism.

Great information Cru, its nice to learn things like that....! What was it like to live back then, it was not so democratic so to see. Gads, take training and locked up for life! Glad I was not living back then with the strong churches, kings and all that, plus it was not too clean back then either. Don't know if this life is better, but it is warmer (in your house with the furnace or stove on) and safer (I think).

 

[woody50]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

hey crusader what is the item on the bottom of picture 2 ?

Good question.

Its the first one I have found, I have seen similar & there is some debate as to what they are.

Its a scooped shaped implement, in fact it has a smaller scoop on the other side. Clearly the main body of the handle is bust off. The Pro thought it was to do with Musket ball making. I think it more likely an implement for measuring out powder of some description. To be honest, I don't know.

I am guessing it's bronze. The bowl, is it worn at all, what you can see anyway. Can you show us the back side. I don't think either guess is right, musket balls, no really don't think that, looks older too.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Celtic Again Iron(age)Man strikes again I'd give my left Kn@ker for one of those

 

[TimC (North Alabama)]

Re: Cru' delivers on Fireworks Night......

Cool beans dude, that's some nice stuff! Congrats.