✅ SOLVED Could this be Native American?

[ANTIQUARIAN]

I found this piece of stone while detecting a field here in Southern Ontario. I primarily detect old home sites and farm fields and have seen my fair share of rocks, but this one struck me as different. I have not seen this type of stone in my area before and was thinking that it might be a Native American scraper as it fits nicely in my hand.

Curious as to what the experts here think.

Thanks,
Dave

 

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[rock]

Looks worked to me might of been trying to make a point then decided to go with a scraper.

 

[arrow86]

Definitely worked .... Maybe a large preform or scraper nice find .... Good eye

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Looks worked to me might of been trying to make a point then decided to go with a scraper.

Thanks very much for your thoughts and for posting rock.
Dave

Definitely worked .... Maybe a large preform or scraper nice find .... Good eye

Thank you for confirming my suspicions on this piece arrow86.
I new this type of didn't happen naturally and that it wasn't plow damage.
Dave

 

[pepperj]

Congrats on getting your first one Dave, I know that you had mentioned that you had never got any points or anything else and really want to. WTG Buddy!

 

[joshuaream]

Interesting artifact. I think you have a big flake off a bifacially worked knife, and then the flake was used and probably re-edged a few times. In Ontario that could take it back to paleo times, so 12,000 to 14,000 years old.

It could also be younger, but it reminds me of some overshot tools from Clovis/Fluted point sites.

 

[crj1968]

Nice find ! Wonder what was cut up with that thing....

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Congrats on getting your first one Dave, I know that you had mentioned that you had never got any points or anything else and really want to. WTG Buddy!

Thanks very much Jim
Hopefully this will open up the flood gates and I'll start finding a lot more native artifacts.

But let's not open up the gates down your way, you've already got enough trouble with high water levels!
Dave

Interesting artifact. I think you have a big flake off a bifacially worked knife, and then the flake was used and probably re-edged a few times. In Ontario that could take it back to paleo times, so 12,000 to 14,000 years old. It could also be younger, but it reminds me of some overshot tools from Clovis/Fluted point sites.

Thanks very much for your thoughts and the pic you attached Josh!
Yes, the portion that I found looks as if it's lost a lot of rock at the base, hopefully the next one will be more complete.

Best of luck to you,
Dave

Nice find ! Wonder what was cut up with that thing....

My 14 year old daughter asked me what it was used for... when I told her that it was likely used for scraping the fat off animal skins she made this face!

Thanks for your post crj,
Dave

 

[reuellis]

Field find, creek find, dig, etc...?

Looks like a common flake tool, you can see the percussion bulb in pic 4.

 

[BrettCo124]

Reullis - would you mind explaining what you meant by "percussion bulb"? I'm sort of new to artifact hunting and am trying to acquire knowledge on the hobby. I'd love to know what the means and how to identify, so I can do the same with my own potential finds.

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Field find, creek find, dig, etc...?

Looks like a common flake tool, you can see the percussion bulb in pic 4.

Thanks very much for your post and for the confirmation reuellis.

Common or not, hopefully it's my first of many to come!

Reullis - would you mind explaining what you meant by "percussion bulb"? I'm sort of new to artifact hunting and am trying to acquire knowledge on the hobby. I'd love to know what the means and how to identify, so I can do the same with my own potential finds.

That's a great question Brett!
I'm obviously a 'newbie' at rock collecting myself and I'd love to know more about the terminology used to help identify these artifacts.

Best of luck to you,
Dave

 

[rock]

Just in case he doesnt come back for a while I will tell you. Its the section facing straight up in the 4th pic. That is where it was struck off of the mother stone the flat section. When they would strike it it leaves a bulb from the pressure of the strike then will thin out as the flake comes off. Lots of times they would leave that section on for a hand held tool.

 

[rock]

I like finding flake tools common or not I find them real interesting especially the large ones like yours. I keep them all.

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Just in case he doesnt come back for a while I will tell you. Its the section facing straight up in the 4th pic. That is where it was struck off of the mother stone the flat section. When they would strike it it leaves a bulb from the pressure of the strike then will thin out as the flake comes off. Lots of times they would leave that section on for a hand held tool.

I like finding flake tools common or not I find them real interesting especially the large ones like yours. I keep them all.

Thanks so much for clarifying this for all of us rock.

Best of luck to everyone in saving more of these beautiful ancient tools from our past!

Dave

 

[BrettCo124]

Just in case he doesnt come back for a while I will tell you. Its the section facing straight up in the 4th pic. That is where it was struck off of the mother stone the flat section. When they would strike it it leaves a bulb from the pressure of the strike then will thin out as the flake comes off. Lots of times they would leave that section on for a hand held tool.

Thanks for the help on this question! So, do you mean this very top part that looks like it was broken off the tip (pic attached)?I can picture what you are describing, but I can't seem to see it in The photo.

 

[rock]

If the bulb is rite under it then yes that would be the striking platform where it was 1st hit to remove the flake.

 

[reuellis]

Yep, what Rock said about the persuasion bulb.

And saying "common" may have been a poor choice of words and in no way was meant to diminish your find.

I'm no expert but your piece has some pressure flaking or at least a secondary swipe with whatever method they were using.

I would have brought that home.

 

[reuellis]

I have some similar stuff from WV that I will try to round up and post.

You found this piece in a creek? Field? Etc...?

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

I have some similar stuff from WV that I will try to round up and post.

You found this piece in a creek? Field? Etc...?

I appreciate you giving us your thoughts and sharing your knowledge with all of the members here reuellis.
I get the feeling that there is a lot of interest in finding, identifying and collecting artifacts like this scraper around our world, so your knowledge and experience is greatly appreciated!

I found this piece in a field that I was metal detecting... here are a couple of pics of the site.

Dave

 

[BrettCo124]

Thanks for your help! I'm Always trying to learn. I think I see what you are describing. Looks like a bug bite directly under it.

Thanks all.