Confederate cannon

[faribo]

There is a cannon they are calling a confederate 3 incher. I don't think it is real. I think that if it was real, in the condition it is in, people would have it bid so high that no one could afford it.

It is a fake isn't it?

 

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[trdking]

I am afraid you have given us nothing to go on here. How high did it bid? Closer pics? For all we know this is a toy canon

 

[faribo]

Here is the description.

3" Southern Civil War Cannon. Cannon with Wheels weighs about 1,000 lbs.

It is at 650 right now with 7 day left.

 

[faribo]

http://www.vponlineauctions.com/cgi-bin/mmlist.cgi?vponline17/13

 

[ARC]

Saw link... looks real to me.

Looks like period... perhaps has been indoor kept until now.

 

[whistler84]

Great for reenactments

 

[smokeythecat]

If you want a guess, 1960's centennial reenactment piece. My father reenacted the centennial and lots of the guys made their own cannons.

 

[moosescout]

Here is the description.

3" Southern Civil War Cannon. Cannon with Wheels weighs about 1,000 lbs.

It is at 650 right now with 7 day left.

Most civil war cannons had the year stamped quite large on the business end.

 

[faribo]

I'll look for the year when I go look at it.

 

[faribo]

Well, I went and looked at it today. They drilled out the touch hole and tapped in a rather large bolt. The carriage is a wreck that they tossed some paint on and the wheels are held on by about 2 threads on the shaft. All of the accessories are concrete tools. It is definitely a replica like Smokythecat said. My friend wanted it to fire. You could not pay me to touch one off on that thing. And I am an Artillery man.

 

[devldog]

If I may make a suggestion, they could carry this gun to Washington D.C. and let Nancy Pelosi test fire this gun. She's fearless, along with another few choice words that I will not elaborate on.. Chuck Schumer and Schiff ca Bob could serve on the gun alongside of the squeaker....I mean speaker.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

An actual civil war era 3"-caliber cannon would have rifling-grooves in its bore. None are visible on this cannon.

Its reported weight suggests it is an iron cannon -- not a movie prop made of plastic, nor a battle-reenactor Reproduction made of cast-aluminum. As such, a cannon of this size is worth more than a couple of hundered dolalrs. But as Faribo indicated, firing it on that rickety carriage even with a "blank" charge would be extremely unsafe.

Just doing some theoretical exploration of possible identifications... it might be a Colonial Era 3-Pounder caliber smoothbore, whose bore diameter was 2.9-inches. But this one differs from most cannons of that era, in that its body lacks any decorative features, such as raised bands/rings, except for a single one (called an astragal) encircling its muzzle.

As such, somebody "overpaid" by more than a little bit, as the now-closed auction reports that the winning bid was $2,910. When the winner finds out it was seriously misrepresented (as being a Confederate cannon), that's legal grounds for a full refund.​

 

[faribo]

Where the trunions are attached to the gun, you can see weld. Really good weld, but modern weld none the less.

 

[faribo]

OK, so you guys clearly know your stuff. My friend did not bid on it.

Do any of you know where he can find a cannon that he can fire on the farm? That is what he is looking for.

 

[dognose]

Interesting for sure.

So CannonballGuy, you are saying it could be a Colonial Era 3-Pounder caliber smoothbore mounted on a more modern carriage? Possibly?
Except the astragal is not correct for that style?

What where the Colonial Era 3-Pounder caliber smoothbore cannons often mounted? Were these naval cannon, infantry or what exactly?

I am not cannon knowledgeable but like learning.