Coat of Arms with Spanish Conquistador or English Colonist

[{Sentinel}]

Dug this at the place Jeff and I have been finding all the Colonial and Civil War relics. It looks to be made from Pewter and old. It has a loop that attached it to a chain or rope, etc....but is broken and probably how it became lost in the first place. Any one seen one identical to it before?

 

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[CRUSADER]

Dug this at the place Jeff and I have been finding all the Colonial and Civil War relics. It looks to be made from Pewter and very old. It has a loop that attached it to a chain or rope, etc....but is broken and probably how it became lost in the first place. Any one seen one identical to it before?

I don't get that feeling that it as old as you hope

 

[{Sentinel}]

Dug this at the place Jeff and I have been finding all the Colonial and Civil War relics. It looks to be made from Pewter and very old. It has a loop that attached it to a chain or rope, etc....but is broken and probably how it became lost in the first place. Any one seen one identical to it before?

I don't get that feeling that it as old as you hope

I'm thinking it could be 1700s or 1800s....With the exception of a couple of items from the 1850s, we've not found anything on this site older than the 1830s...that being said..who knows....I can say that this picture doesn't do it justice and in person you can see that the pewter on the other side is starting to crack so its got to have some age to it.

 

[CRUSADER]

Dug this at the place Jeff and I have been finding all the Colonial and Civil War relics. It looks to be made from Pewter and very old. It has a loop that attached it to a chain or rope, etc....but is broken and probably how it became lost in the first place. Any one seen one identical to it before?

I don't get that feeling that it as old as you hope

I'm thinking it could be 1700s or 1800s....With the exception of a couple of items from the 1850s, we've not found anything on this site older than the 1830s...that being said..who knows....I can say that this picture doesn't do it justice and in person you can see that the pewter on the other side is starting to crack so its got to have some age to it.

I think the modelling of the whole piece is screaming (1900ish), its just not right for 18th Century, at least in my experience of those type of pieces. Wish I had better references but its my gut feel on this one look forward to be proven wrong

 

[{Sentinel}]

Dug this at the place Jeff and I have been finding all the Colonial and Civil War relics. It looks to be made from Pewter and very old. It has a loop that attached it to a chain or rope, etc....but is broken and probably how it became lost in the first place. Any one seen one identical to it before?

I don't get that feeling that it as old as you hope

I'm thinking it could be 1700s or 1800s....With the exception of a couple of items from the 1850s, we've not found anything on this site older than the 1830s...that being said..who knows....I can say that this picture doesn't do it justice and in person you can see that the pewter on the other side is starting to crack so its got to have some age to it.

I think the modelling of the whole piece is screaming (1900ish), its just not right for 18th Century, at least in my experience of those type of pieces. Wish I had better references but its my gut feel on this one look forward to be proven wrong

No, it could be 20th century Cru, really, I don't care either way as it isn't worth a whole lot and I told my hunting partner the same.

 

[robfinds]

Top left, looks like someone with corn bushells , two other quarters may contain Jews harps. As to what it is ?.

Robert.

 

[umrgolf]

Dug this at the place Jeff and I have been finding all the Colonial and Civil War relics. It looks to be made from Pewter and very old. It has a loop that attached it to a chain or rope, etc....but is broken and probably how it became lost in the first place. Any one seen one identical to it before?

I don't get that feeling that it as old as you hope

I'm thinking it could be 1700s or 1800s....With the exception of a couple of items from the 1850s, we've not found anything on this site older than the 1830s...that being said..who knows....I can say that this picture doesn't do it justice and in person you can see that the pewter on the other side is starting to crack so its got to have some age to it.

I think the modelling of the whole piece is screaming (1900ish), its just not right for 18th Century, at least in my experience of those type of pieces. Wish I had better references but its my gut feel on this one look forward to be proven wrong

You are obviously more educated than me on the age of different items, but pewter was a material used to make pendants 100 yrs ago?

 

[umrgolf]

Top left, looks like someone with corn bushells , two other quarters may contain Jews harps. As to what it is ?.

Robert.

I agree Rob with the Jews harps, hard to tell the other two

 

[CRUSADER]

Dug this at the place Jeff and I have been finding all the Colonial and Civil War relics. It looks to be made from Pewter and very old. It has a loop that attached it to a chain or rope, etc....but is broken and probably how it became lost in the first place. Any one seen one identical to it before?

I don't get that feeling that it as old as you hope

I'm thinking it could be 1700s or 1800s....With the exception of a couple of items from the 1850s, we've not found anything on this site older than the 1830s...that being said..who knows....I can say that this picture doesn't do it justice and in person you can see that the pewter on the other side is starting to crack so its got to have some age to it.

I think the modelling of the whole piece is screaming (1900ish), its just not right for 18th Century, at least in my experience of those type of pieces. Wish I had better references but its my gut feel on this one look forward to be proven wrong

You are obviously more educated than me on the age of different items, but pewter was a material used to make pendants 100 yrs ago?

still make them today, so yes

 

[robfinds]

Top left, looks like someone with corn bushells , two other quarters may contain Jews harps. As to what it is ?.

Robert.

I agree Rob with the Jews harps, hard to tell the other two

They look like people wearing smocks, farmers used to wear these, in the 19th Century in England.

 

[umrgolf]

Dug this at the place Jeff and I have been finding all the Colonial and Civil War relics. It looks to be made from Pewter and very old. It has a loop that attached it to a chain or rope, etc....but is broken and probably how it became lost in the first place. Any one seen one identical to it before?

I don't get that feeling that it as old as you hope

I'm thinking it could be 1700s or 1800s....With the exception of a couple of items from the 1850s, we've not found anything on this site older than the 1830s...that being said..who knows....I can say that this picture doesn't do it justice and in person you can see that the pewter on the other side is starting to crack so its got to have some age to it.

I think the modelling of the whole piece is screaming (1900ish), its just not right for 18th Century, at least in my experience of those type of pieces. Wish I had better references but its my gut feel on this one look forward to be proven wrong

You are obviously more educated than me on the age of different items, but pewter was a material used to make pendants 100 yrs ago?

still make them today, so yes

 

[CRUSADER]

Dug this at the place Jeff and I have been finding all the Colonial and Civil War relics. It looks to be made from Pewter and very old. It has a loop that attached it to a chain or rope, etc....but is broken and probably how it became lost in the first place. Any one seen one identical to it before?

I don't get that feeling that it as old as you hope

I'm thinking it could be 1700s or 1800s....With the exception of a couple of items from the 1850s, we've not found anything on this site older than the 1830s...that being said..who knows....I can say that this picture doesn't do it justice and in person you can see that the pewter on the other side is starting to crack so its got to have some age to it.

I think the modelling of the whole piece is screaming (1900ish), its just not right for 18th Century, at least in my experience of those type of pieces. Wish I had better references but its my gut feel on this one look forward to be proven wrong

You are obviously more educated than me on the age of different items, but pewter was a material used to make pendants 100 yrs ago?

still make them today, so yes

pewter was a very popular cheap medium in the late 1800s early 1900s think of all the pewter Medallions from that period. The consistancy changed over the years, but you would need a science lab for that kinda analysis.

To me, it just has elements of a modern marketing idea, putting across sudo-historical images into a modern bundle.

 

[umrgolf]

Dug this at the place Jeff and I have been finding all the Colonial and Civil War relics. It looks to be made from Pewter and very old. It has a loop that attached it to a chain or rope, etc....but is broken and probably how it became lost in the first place. Any one seen one identical to it before?

I don't get that feeling that it as old as you hope

I'm thinking it could be 1700s or 1800s....With the exception of a couple of items from the 1850s, we've not found anything on this site older than the 1830s...that being said..who knows....I can say that this picture doesn't do it justice and in person you can see that the pewter on the other side is starting to crack so its got to have some age to it.

I think the modelling of the whole piece is screaming (1900ish), its just not right for 18th Century, at least in my experience of those type of pieces. Wish I had better references but its my gut feel on this one look forward to be proven wrong

You are obviously more educated than me on the age of different items, but pewter was a material used to make pendants 100 yrs ago?

still make them today, so yes

pewter was a very popular cheap medium in the late 1800s early 1900s think of all the pewter Medallions from that period. The consistancy changed over the years, but you would need a science lab for that kinda analysis.

To me, it just has elements of a modern marketing idea, putting across sudo-historical images into a modern bundle.

very impressed by your level of knowledge and that explanation was well-said. Thanks

 

[Lucas]

The central motifs are the conquistador and a cross. The "jew's harps" look like coffins to me?

The overall style is not very old.

 

[{Sentinel}]

If you look, there are tiny "X's" below the figure in the upper left hand quadrant. As for the age, I've been relic hunting for about 13 years and have a DARN good sense of aging relics. I'd say this piece is probably late 1800s. The jews harp was an instrument used alot during that time...I'm not sure that that's what is on this piece,but the overall cracking of the Pewter, as well as the depth it was found and the large amount of buildup that had to be cleaned from it, I would say that its been in the Earth at least around 100 years give or take. IMHO

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Im going to follow this thread because I like it. Im not sure what the symbols are supposed to represent but it may just be a poor quality casting and my gut feeling is they are not jews harps. Does 3 jews harps have any particular meaning? I wish there was a way to clean it.

Did you search the back carefully for any markings? Even if its plain, a pic may help.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Ive been searching coats of arms, shields, crests, and often symbols are in sets of three but I dont see anything resembling these items. The top left almost looks like an M.

At this point the Pillsbury Dough Boy and 3 jews harps is as good a guess as any.

 

[{Sentinel}]

Im going to follow this thread because I like it. Im not sure what the symbols are supposed to represent but it may just be a poor quality casting and my gut feeling is they are not jews harps. Does 3 jews harps have any particular meaning? I wish there was a way to clean it.

Did you search the back carefully for any markings? Even if its plain, a pic may help.

Hey Big CypressH, the back is the same as the front, I will try to take some close ups to so you can see the 3 "X's" under the "Stick Figure" Maybe you can help me try to I.D. this as I know this is your forte' so to speak

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Its not the Braniff logo. It reminds me of the Panamanian Balboa coin but not exactly. So far Im coming up empty. Its looking more like a colonist.

 

[{Sentinel}]

Its not the Braniff logo. It reminds me of the Panamanian Balboa coin but not exactly. So far Im coming up empty. Its looking more like a colonist.

Cypress, I've cleaned it off alittle more and used my Jewelers Loop and now I think I can I.D. the form in the upper left and lower right quadrant. It appears to be a bird, maybe a eagle? in a stylistic A shaped form with its beak facing to its right. The one on top left has the symbol "X X X" below it, while the one on the lower right has "X X" below it.
As for the other symbols, don't know yet