Clad from the school, a cartridge fired with a double firing pin and a buffalo from the street

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DAY 1
Winter is definitely here, cold and windy with crusty ground. Luckily the conditions were ok for detecting so I took a trip to the K to 8 school hoping to start another silver streak. I spent 5.5 hours swinging the CZ21 on the upper field extending my prior grid. I did find 35 coins with a face value of $1.96, 4 wheaties, some brass cartridges, Jesus, a dream catcher, a religious medal, a bullet and a half (the half is the outer copper jacket left behind sometimes), 2 coca-cola game tabs, a copper nail, aluminum tie wire, aluminum bottle caps, whole aluminum cans, 47 tabs and 11 pencil ends.

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The wheaties are all from the 40s and 50s so nothing really old.

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One of the cartridges is a rimfire with a double strike on the base. It looks like it was fired from a gun with a dual firing pin. I measured the base just above the rim and it measures .29 of an inch so 29 caliber. But I’ve never heard of that one. I would appreciate any info anyone might have on this one.

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DAY 2
The kids were still out of school for the holiday so I got back to the middle school and did a little swingin. I was worked a grid on a steep hillside. It was cold and windy with rather serious gusts that almost knocked me down. I spent 5.5 hours swingin the CZ21 and found 83 coins with a face value of $3.45, 4 wheaties (1934, 1937, 1940 and 1951D), a mashed aluminum ring, a peace sign pendant, 2 pieces of eyeglass frame, a strap adjustment, a large zipper, 2 jean snaps, a balance weight, aluminum bottle caps, can slaw, a chunk of lead, 44 tabs and 11 pencil ends.

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Not a lot of trash on the hillside, except for the tabs and there were plenty of them. The balance weight is marked with a 50 so 50 grams. Probably from a science class scale.

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The lead chunk was down around 16 inches and I was almost sure it was a can. It is about 3 pounds so about $1.50 from the scrap yard. Not great but every little bit helps.

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I had a visit from the city police. An officer showed up and said I couldn’t do that, it was school property. I told her I had permission and she asked who gave me permission. I told her the principal (and I gave her name) and the facilities director of the board of education. She seemed doubtful so I pulled out my phone and showed her the picture of the letter giving me permission. I told her I also had the actual letter in my truck if she needed to see it. She said she hoped I found what I was looking for and left. As she was leaving I told her to have a happy new year and to stay safe. The police drive by all the time and never stop so I guess someone called and made a complaint saying I wasn’t supposed to be detecting at the school and so they had to send someone to look into the matter. That is one reason I always ask for written permission for the schools At other locations I always get the name of the person giving permission in case there is an inquiry. The officer was just doing her job and nice about it and I was courteous toward her so everything was fine.

DAY 3
I haven’t been to the college in almost 2 years so I decided to go back and cover some of the high traffic areas hoping for new loses. I have found quite a few older relics here in the past including a number of nice civil war finds so you never know. I spent 4.5 hours swingin the CZ21 and found 93 coins with a face value of $8.33, a large hoop earring, a screw-in cleat, a copper rivet, a fancy crock decoration, a large zipper, a few aluminum bottle caps, a little can slaw and 33 tabs.

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There was a lot of dead space, cleaned up in the past and the recent losses of coins was good, most on the surface or not down far. The only old item was the copper rivet. Probably from the old farm that was here before the college.

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The friend who got me the permission to detect here years ago was a vice president then and he just took over as the new president so I think my permission is secure. While I was there I discovered that they have cleared the brush off of a field on the edge of the campus that may have some possibilities so I will have to go back again soon. Before the clearing up the weeds were chest high and thick so I didn’t even try.

NON DETECTOR FINDS
I found 11 cents (a dime and a penny) in 2 different coinstar machines and 2 pennies in another one this week. I also found a quarter, a dime, a nickel and a penny while we were walking. The nickel was the star of the show, a no date buffalo nickel on the edge of the street. Probably another coin from grandpa’s change jar that ended up in circulation.

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Not a great week, but I did increase the coin count and face value for my year so all is good. My year still has 4 months to go since it starts May 1 and ends April 30. Thanks for looking, stay safe, good luck and may your coil lead you to good things.
 

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Good fun there, congrats on getting out there!
I'm thinking the shell casing is a .25 rf or .25 Stevens
I measured a live .25 rf cartridge I have and the case measured .276" so a fired case would have expanded to the chamber dimensions which could easily have been .29"
 

Good fun there, congrats on getting out there!
I'm thinking the shell casing is a .25 rf or .25 Stevens
I measured a live .25 rf cartridge I have and the case measured .276" so a fired case would have expanded to the chamber dimensions which could easily have been .29"
Thanks for the info. That sounds like a good possibility. Stay safe, good luck and keep swingin. (You seem to have good luck and you are always swingin so keep up the good work)
 

Another week of awesome finds.. 8-)

That double-strike shell may have misfired the first time, so they ejected it and then tried it again.
 

I've not seen a firing pin mark like the indentations on the shell. Any rimfire firing pins I have seen have a flat face, a rectangular shape, and their strike is mostly on the rim itself, not on the case near the rim. So it's an odd one.
 

I've not seen a firing pin mark like the indentations on the shell. Any rimfire firing pins I have seen have a flat face, a rectangular shape, and their strike is mostly on the rim itself, not on the case near the rim. So it's an odd one.
Thanks for the reply. I found a picture of a double firing pin on line and it matches the marks on this cartridge exactly. Stay safe, good luck and keep swingin.
 

DAY 1
Winter is definitely here, cold and windy with crusty ground. Luckily the conditions were ok for detecting so I took a trip to the K to 8 school hoping to start another silver streak. I spent 5.5 hours swinging the CZ21 on the upper field extending my prior grid. I did find 35 coins with a face value of $1.96, 4 wheaties, some brass cartridges, Jesus, a dream catcher, a religious medal, a bullet and a half (the half is the outer copper jacket left behind sometimes), 2 coca-cola game tabs, a copper nail, aluminum tie wire, aluminum bottle caps, whole aluminum cans, 47 tabs and 11 pencil ends.

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The wheaties are all from the 40s and 50s so nothing really old.

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One of the cartridges is a rimfire with a double strike on the base. It looks like it was fired from a gun with a dual firing pin. I measured the base just above the rim and it measures .29 of an inch so 29 caliber. But I’ve never heard of that one. I would appreciate any info anyone might have on this one.

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DAY 2
The kids were still out of school for the holiday so I got back to the middle school and did a little swingin. I was worked a grid on a steep hillside. It was cold and windy with rather serious gusts that almost knocked me down. I spent 5.5 hours swingin the CZ21 and found 83 coins with a face value of $3.45, 4 wheaties (1934, 1937, 1940 and 1951D), a mashed aluminum ring, a peace sign pendant, 2 pieces of eyeglass frame, a strap adjustment, a large zipper, 2 jean snaps, a balance weight, aluminum bottle caps, can slaw, a chunk of lead, 44 tabs and 11 pencil ends.

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Not a lot of trash on the hillside, except for the tabs and there were plenty of them. The balance weight is marked with a 50 so 50 grams. Probably from a science class scale.

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The lead chunk was down around 16 inches and I was almost sure it was a can. It is about 3 pounds so about $1.50 from the scrap yard. Not great but every little bit helps.

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I had a visit from the city police. An officer showed up and said I couldn’t do that, it was school property. I told her I had permission and she asked who gave me permission. I told her the principal (and I gave her name) and the facilities director of the board of education. She seemed doubtful so I pulled out my phone and showed her the picture of the letter giving me permission. I told her I also had the actual letter in my truck if she needed to see it. She said she hoped I found what I was looking for and left. As she was leaving I told her to have a happy new year and to stay safe. The police drive by all the time and never stop so I guess someone called and made a complaint saying I wasn’t supposed to be detecting at the school and so they had to send someone to look into the matter. That is one reason I always ask for written permission for the schools At other locations I always get the name of the person giving permission in case there is an inquiry. The officer was just doing her job and nice about it and I was courteous toward her so everything was fine.

DAY 3
I haven’t been to the college in almost 2 years so I decided to go back and cover some of the high traffic areas hoping for new loses. I have found quite a few older relics here in the past including a number of nice civil war finds so you never know. I spent 4.5 hours swingin the CZ21 and found 93 coins with a face value of $8.33, a large hoop earring, a screw-in cleat, a copper rivet, a fancy crock decoration, a large zipper, a few aluminum bottle caps, a little can slaw and 33 tabs.

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There was a lot of dead space, cleaned up in the past and the recent losses of coins was good, most on the surface or not down far. The only old item was the copper rivet. Probably from the old farm that was here before the college.

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The friend who got me the permission to detect here years ago was a vice president then and he just took over as the new president so I think my permission is secure. While I was there I discovered that they have cleared the brush off of a field on the edge of the campus that may have some possibilities so I will have to go back again soon. Before the clearing up the weeds were chest high and thick so I didn’t even try.

NON DETECTOR FINDS
I found 11 cents (a dime and a penny) in 2 different coinstar machines and 2 pennies in another one this week. I also found a quarter, a dime, a nickel and a penny while we were walking. The nickel was the star of the show, a no date buffalo nickel on the edge of the street. Probably another coin from grandpa’s change jar that ended up in circulation.

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Not a great week, but I did increase the coin count and face value for my year so all is good. My year still has 4 months to go since it starts May 1 and ends April 30. Thanks for looking, stay safe, good luck and may your coil lead you to good things.
as always, thanks for a great, detailed post, looks like a lot of fun and swingin'
 

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