Civil War 3 ringer with a few extra rings ?

[DirtyMike]

Not sure about this one. It's not a multi ring sharps. The extra rings appear to start and stop at the same spot. Pretty straight rings too. Just curious to see if anyone has seen one of these. I wonder if it was a machine or casting flaw? Or was it carved. Or is this just a variant I have not came across yet?

 

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[EC.Mason]

I dont know the answer to your question, but great bullets. We need Cannonball to chine in on this. Im sure he can answer your question.

 

[HutSiteDigger]

Hey any of those bullets you dig are a misfire? that had to be extracted or pulled from barrel using a screw or corkscrew attached to the end of a ramrod. I see a lot of bullets you have with holes in them.. Photo below is of misfired bullets and the 2nd one is a .46 caliber with bunch of rings on it, dont think that will help but an example of one.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Because you asked me to comment -- note that the misfire "pulled" bullets in the photo have some grooves made by the bullet-puller/worm on their nose-top, which is the only place on the bullet that gets touched by the bulletworm. So, "bullet-pulling" cannot be the cause of the "extra" grooves lower down on the body of DirtyMike's bullet.

The single bullet in the other photo is known as a Multi-ring Sharps, and it came out of the bulletmold with that number of rings/grooves on it.

DirtyMike's bullet was also cast with more than the typical number of grooves. Some diggers used to call that kind a "re-cut mold" bulllet. But in actuality, when you cut additional grooves into a mold, it creates ridges on the bullets you cast in that mold (not additional grooves on the bullet). There is no way to re-cut a bulletmold to make ridges on the bullet.

We now believe the mold was simply mis-manufactured. But since it would still cast acceptable bullets, it got used despite the irregular grooving on the bullets it would produce. Because the great majority of such bullets have been dug in Confederate troop-locations, they are believed to have come from CS-made bullletmolds.

Take a look at the bulletmold in the photo below. The raised ridge in its cavity is what forms the groove on the bullet it casts. If you were to cut an additional groove in the mold's cavity, it will make a raised area on the cast bullet -- not an indented area. You cannot "re-cut" the mold to add additional ridges in the mold's cavity, to make additional grooves in the bullet. So, despite what the McKee-&-Mason bullet book says, DirtyMike's bullet is not from a "re-cut" mold.

 

[Tnmountains]

Well it figures we would not have the best molded bullets but how cool is that with all the rings though?

 

[DirtyMike]

Because you asked me to comment -- note that the misfire "pulled" bullets in the photo have some grooves made by the bullet-puller/worm on their nose-top, which is the only place on the bullet that gets touched by the bulletworm. So, "bullet-pulling" cannot be the cause of the "extra" grooves lower down on the body of DirtyMike's bullet.

The single bullet in the other photo is known as a Multi-ring Sharps, and it came out of the bulletmold with that number of rings/grooves on it.

DirtyMike's bullet was also cast with more than the typical number of grooves. Some diggers used to call that kind a "re-cut mold" bulllet. But in actuality, when you cut additional grooves into a mold, it creates ridges on the bullets you cast in that mold (not additional grooves on the bullet). There is no way to re-cut a bulletmold to make ridges on the bullet.

We now believe the mold was simply mis-manufactured. But since it would still cast acceptable bullets, it got used despite the irregular grooving on the bullets it would produce. Because the great majority of such bullets have been dug in Confederate troop-locations, they are believed to have come from CS-made bullletmolds.

Take a look at the bulletmold in the photo below. The raised ridge in its cavity is what forms the groove on the bullet it casts. If you were to cut an additional groove in the mold's cavity, it will make a raised area on the cast bullet -- not an indented area. You cannot "re-cut" the mold to add additional ridges in the mold's cavity, to make additional grooves in the bullet. So, despite what the McKee-&-Mason bullet book says, DirtyMike's bullet is not from a "re-cut" mold.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Gunrunner61]

Not a clue.....But! thats one more cool looking Bullit

 

[materdigger1]

Because you asked me to comment -- note that the misfire "pulled" bullets in the photo have some grooves made by the bullet-puller/worm on their nose-top, which is the only place on the bullet that gets touched by the bulletworm. So, "bullet-pulling" cannot be the cause of the "extra" grooves lower down on the body of DirtyMike's bullet.

The single bullet in the other photo is known as a Multi-ring Sharps, and it came out of the bulletmold with that number of rings/grooves on it.

DirtyMike's bullet was also cast with more than the typical number of grooves. Some diggers used to call that kind a "re-cut mold" bulllet. But in actuality, when you cut additional grooves into a mold, it creates ridges on the bullets you cast in that mold (not additional grooves on the bullet). There is no way to re-cut a bulletmold to make ridges on the bullet.

We now believe the mold was simply mis-manufactured. But since it would still cast acceptable bullets, it got used despite the irregular grooving on the bullets it would produce. Because the great majority of such bullets have been dug in Confederate troop-locations, they are believed to have come from CS-made bullletmolds.

Take a look at the bulletmold in the photo below. The raised ridge in its cavity is what forms the groove on the bullet it casts. If you were to cut an additional groove in the mold's cavity, it will make a raised area on the cast bullet -- not an indented area. You cannot "re-cut" the mold to add additional ridges in the mold's cavity, to make additional grooves in the bullet. So, despite what the McKee-&-Mason bullet book says, DirtyMike's bullet is not from a "re-cut" mold.

Very well stated Camnnonball

 

[kuger]

....not all wormed bullets were from mis-fires either.....when a soldier was just unloaded the firearm....for the night etc.,to avoid an un necessary noise...BANG,the bullet was pulled.Thus why at the entrance to many Forts,wormed bullets are sometimes prevelant