Can someone help me identify button "TREBLE GILT" COLOUR

[Integrity3]

I have found about a dozen or so buttons can someone help me date these and identify the manufacturer. Im new t metal detecting, any help would be apprecated.

 

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[CRUSADER]

Nearly impossible to tell the maker but it is British made, which give two good possibilities, Birmingham or London. Its a quality mark referring to its Gilt. First quarter of the 19th C.

 

[dirtTick]

I have found about a dozen or so buttons can someone help me date these and identify the manufacturer. Im new t metal detecting, any help would be apprecated.
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sorry to dig this thread up,but did you ever find any ID on the second button with the wreath and 3 stars? I just found one with the same stamp, although all flat with no border around the button. Ayn help would be great!

Cheers

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

DirtTick, welcome to TreasureNet and the What-Is-It forum, which is the best place on the internet to get CORRECT identifications & time-dating info. Unfortunately, because your plain-front brass flatbutton backmark shows only a wreath and stars, its manufacturer cannot be specifically identified.

The "plain front" brass 1-piece flatbuttons in the photo were manufactured for use on civilian clothing. Ones with a raised-lettering backmark (like yours) date from approximately 1790 to the very-early-1840s, and ones with indented backmarking start about 1810.

The majority of the brass 1-piece flatbuttons we dig in the US were imported here from Britain, because until the mid-1820s the young US button-making industry was incapable of mass-producing them, falling far short of the demand-level from the Clothing-Manufacturers. Therefore, in the early-1800s, many millions of the plain-front brass 1-piece buttons were still being imported from the old "Mother Country," Britain.

The War-Of-1812 caused US consumers to dislike British-made products, so American button-makers sometimes included an American eagle in the button's backmark to signify that it was a US-made button. (British-made ones often have a British crown in the backmark.)

At that time, the word gilt in a button's backmark referred strictly to gold-plating... and the word plated meant silver-plating.

Also at that time, the British had established a set of "Quality" standards regarding the manufacture of metal buttons. Unfortunately, the standards were not strictly enforced, so button makers quickly went to playing fast-and-loose with the Quality ratings. I should mention, the American button manufacturers copied the British markings. So unless a backmark tells a British location (like London) or contains a British spelling (such as "colour" instead of color, a quality-rating in the backmark won't tell you whether the button is British-made or US-made. Some of the many examples of "Quality-Rating" in backmarks are:
Standard Quality
Extra Quality
Fine Quality
Superior Quality
Best Quality (note the "Best" on one of your buttons)
Superfine Quality
Gilt
Extra Gilt
Fine Gilt
Treble Gilt
"Orange Colour" (refers to the color of the goldplating)
Rich Orange
Plated
Treble Plated

Here's a very educational link which has info about the type of button you found:
http://www.daacs.org/wp-content/uploads/buttons.pdf

 

[dirtTick]

Hey TCG!
Thanks for the informative reply! Super helpful, and well appreciated.

I really need to start getting better about posting pics and etc for my finds (now that I'm finally gathering some decent to show). In any case I'll get out the camera to show my button here soon.

Looking forward to participating in the community a bit more.

 

[dirtTick]

Okay all here is a pic of the button I found. Let me know any more info if you got it!

Hey TCG!
Thanks for the informative reply! Super helpful, and well appreciated.

I really need to start getting better about posting pics and etc for my finds (now that I'm finally gathering some decent to show). In any case I'll get out the camera to show my button here soon.

Looking forward to participating in the community a bit more.

 

[Cantstopdigging]

hello Integrity 3 i found one that is very similar to yours accept it just has a wreath with no stars or grading marks.

if you or anyone else knows the age or origin, please let me know.

 

[sutphin]

NEW MEMBER I HAVE THE SAME BUTTON AND WELCOME TO TNET .

 

[BARKER]

Hi; Greetings from Boston. Welcome to TNet. TCG, Great ID Job. Saved me the typing.!! PEACE:RONB

PS: Hard Work is always appreciated here on TNet ok. PEACE:RONB

 

[RelicMedic]

Congrats on your old button. The guideline that I follow, generally, is any plain front flat button with a backmark (best color, treble gilt, extra fine, orange, London, etc) date approximately 1820-1840.

 

[A2coins]

Welcome and great find hope to see more from you also.. Thanks for sharing your finds!!!!!!

 

[trapperart]

Welcome to the forum and congrats

 

[Tommy G]

Can't help with the ID, but these old buttons are always great finds. Back marks usually indicate early 1800's and most were made in England. Best of luck on future hunts.

 

[eastcoastdetectorist]

welcome to TNET!