Can anyone help with this Washington piece

[G.A.P.metal]

no back marks ...little bigger that a nickle found in a cellar behind loose stone wrapped in some type of old foil

 

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[G.A.P.metal]

sorry can anyone help with these buttons sorry

 

[Iron Patch]

Rev War Kings 8th, and British 60th Regt. of foot, but wrapped in foil?

Post a closer shot of the backs.

 

[aka da Prof]

hey- your in Watkins!!! I'm up in Lodi! haven't seen you in the field yet-get these locally? and-my last good find was a 2 real © 1724 and a L.C © 1794 from a Hector site-- hope to meet out there someday, da Prof

 

[Lucas]

Both the King's 8th and the 60th Foot were in the Great Lakes. King's 8th buttons are fairly common in Michigan, and even show up in Wisconsin. But both buttons are also reproduced for reenactors.

 

[Iron Patch]

But both buttons are also reproduced for reenactors.

I think the matching, probably incorrect shanks for pewter buttons is pretty good evidence that's what they are. I used to have a King's 8th button and am pretty sure it had a typical iron shank.

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Iron Patch
heres the backs thanks

 

[Iron Patch]

Iron Patch
heres the backs thanks

Would it surprise you if I said they were reproductions? Don't see too many Rev buttons looking like that, unfortunately.

 

[G.A.P.metal]

hey farkoff
ya i`v been hunting around here for 37 yrs.
I used to onw G.A.P. Meatl Detectors and Excaviting here in Beaver Dams .
Hope to see u in the field and we will have a beepin good time.

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Hey Iron Patch
i value your knowladge and if you say they look funny or a repo i bleve u
but the cellar hole i found them in was bunned down in 1903 the cellar is right across the road from my house.
though they might be old. this is a great place to find things out thanks for the help
thanks Gary G.A.P.

 

[G.A.P.metal]

thank u Lucas
U and Iron Patch nailed it about the same time Gary G.A.P.

 

[Iron Patch]

Hey Iron Patch
i value your knowladge and if you say they look funny or a repo i bleve u
but the cellar hole i found them in was bunned down in 1903 the cellar is right across the road from my house.
though they might be old. this is a great place to find things out thanks for the help
thanks Gary G.A.P.

But you said they were wrapped in foil? Wouldn't that make you believe they are fairly modern?

 

[G.A.P.metal]

Iron Patch
yes the foil looked old to but as i said you know your stuff.
Infact i was hopein you would reply to my post.
I`v seen u in the other forums and i know you dont like to be called an xpert, at this but meny of us think u r
thanks Gary

 

[Iron Patch]

Iron Patch
yes the foil looked old to but as i said you know your stuff.
Infact i was hopein you would reply to my post.
I`v seen u in the other forums and i know you dont like to be called an xpert, at this but meny of us think u r
thanks Gary

I know two solid experts, and many that know much more than I do, so definitely don't take anything I say other than being just my opinion. Everything just adds up to me as being reproductions. (The cimcumstances they were found, the condition, and the backs) Usually when it's that one sided it's easy to guess the answer. And if I'm wrong I know you would forgive me anyway because those would be killer.

 

[Lucas]

These are modern copies:

 

[celtex]

no back marks ...little bigger that a nickle found in a cellar behind loose stone wrapped in some type of old foil

could the foil have been tin? if so it would it pre date aluminum foil from 1910 backwards.

 

[G.A.P.metal]

hey Lucas
Thanks my buttons do look like the repos thanks for the good pictures and helping to clear up my mistry.
And thanks to all the new friends i have made here in this one post.
I just wisch i would have found this site 5 yrs ago.
My buttons might be fake,but my new friends a for real.
thanks Gary G.A.P.

 

[CRUSADER]

Iron Patch
heres the backs thanks

Sadly the backs were a giveaway. When I saw the fronts, I nearly fell off my chair, shame they were not the real thing, they would have been some of the best

 

[Iron Patch]

Iron Patch
heres the backs thanks

Sadly the backs were a giveaway. When I saw the fronts, I nearly fell off my chair, shame they were not the real thing, they would have been some of the best

I'll tell you what the front condition looks exactly like.... fresh water lake finds! If these buttons would have been based on brass buttons and not pewter, I think I'd still be scratching my head deciding.