Calling anyone interest in solving a cipher?
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Once again it is the cypher in my first post. may or may not give the name of author of the book.
If we can crack the code we may might find out the name of the author of the book or some thing else?
It would be a big feather in everyone cap who contributes to the solution if we can collectively crack the code at treasurenet. We might be solving an at least a 274 - 300 year old mystery
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If we can crack the code we may might find out the name of the author of the book or some thing else?
It would be a big feather in everyone cap who contributes to the solution if we can collectively crack the code at treasurenet. We might be solving an at least a 274 - 300 year old mystery
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It is a book of secrets written in old english and Latin.
But there is as already shown magical content through out the book. as below you can see a Sator square. that goes back to roman times. it uses are not clear. Some say it was used for spell casting?
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But there is as already shown magical content through out the book. as below you can see a Sator square. that goes back to roman times. it uses are not clear. Some say it was used for spell casting?
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Could the first line of text be a title since it looks like its in quotes? "Exeodem Lib MS"?
The Latin translation, according to translate.com, for exeodem lib = The Last Book . However, the abbreviation MS is somewhat ambiguous. MS was used to abbreviate several different words but if we cherry pick the one we like best we could use "mystes" making the translation of the title "The Last Book of Mysteries".
Not really a solution to the cypher but maybe an avenue to follow in search of a solution?
The Latin translation, according to translate.com, for exeodem lib = The Last Book . However, the abbreviation MS is somewhat ambiguous. MS was used to abbreviate several different words but if we cherry pick the one we like best we could use "mystes" making the translation of the title "The Last Book of Mysteries".
Not really a solution to the cypher but maybe an avenue to follow in search of a solution?
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Crow,
In post 19, you mentioned "getting the cane". I doubt even 1% of the readers know what that means.
While I started school in the '40s, I just missed a one-room schoolhouse and that generation of getting caned. My teachers had graduated to sitting us miscreants (there's another old word rarely used today) on an uncomfortable stool in the front corner of the room facing the wall--for all the students to see. Based on what is happening in schools today, perhaps bringing back caning would reinstall respect for authority.
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In post 19, you mentioned "getting the cane". I doubt even 1% of the readers know what that means.
While I started school in the '40s, I just missed a one-room schoolhouse and that generation of getting caned. My teachers had graduated to sitting us miscreants (there's another old word rarely used today) on an uncomfortable stool in the front corner of the room facing the wall--for all the students to see. Based on what is happening in schools today, perhaps bringing back caning would reinstall respect for authority.
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I’m curious as to where these images are coming from.
What you’re showing are pages from an untitled 17th Century book currently in the holdings of the Newberry Library in Chicago. They acquired it in 1988, along with a bundle of medical texts. Although untitled, the library has assigned it the name “The Book of Magical Charms” for record-keeping purposes.
It’s described as an occult commonplace book written using iron gall ink and likely a quill pen, utilising Latin and archaic English. The subject matter covers medicine, magic and mysticism, including spagiric magic (aka paracelsianism) which claimed to improve the efficacy of existing medicines by separating them into their primordial elements (the tria prima of sulphur, mercury, and salt) and then recombining them. There are numerous passages regarding charms for things such as healing a toothache or recovering a lost voice, as well as how to talk to spirits.
Although the book's principal author is not named, he was identified in 2017 from his handwriting as probably the London lawyer, Robert Ashley who likely composed the book over the course of his lifetime. He was born in 1565 and died in October 1641.
The book is regarded as unique, with no contemporary copies known to exist. The Newberry Library has made the book's pages available for the public to read and transcribe/translate:
https://collections.carli.illinois.edu/digital/collection/nby_dig/id/2695
What you’re showing are pages from an untitled 17th Century book currently in the holdings of the Newberry Library in Chicago. They acquired it in 1988, along with a bundle of medical texts. Although untitled, the library has assigned it the name “The Book of Magical Charms” for record-keeping purposes.
It’s described as an occult commonplace book written using iron gall ink and likely a quill pen, utilising Latin and archaic English. The subject matter covers medicine, magic and mysticism, including spagiric magic (aka paracelsianism) which claimed to improve the efficacy of existing medicines by separating them into their primordial elements (the tria prima of sulphur, mercury, and salt) and then recombining them. There are numerous passages regarding charms for things such as healing a toothache or recovering a lost voice, as well as how to talk to spirits.
Although the book's principal author is not named, he was identified in 2017 from his handwriting as probably the London lawyer, Robert Ashley who likely composed the book over the course of his lifetime. He was born in 1565 and died in October 1641.
The book is regarded as unique, with no contemporary copies known to exist. The Newberry Library has made the book's pages available for the public to read and transcribe/translate:
https://collections.carli.illinois.edu/digital/collection/nby_dig/id/2695
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I researched 25 random words I could make out the best. 6 I found nothing, 4 of them said Italian, and the other 10 all gave definitions for words in Latin. I think you can safely say the 4 it pegged as Italian are actually Latin, so Latin it is.
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Oops, the latest posts didn't load, I didn't see the rest so everyone already knows this. Sorry.
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The donor of the book, Dr. Stanton A. Friedberg (RIP), was the professor emeritus and former chairman of the department of otolaryngology and bronchoesophagology at Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke’s Medical Center, Chicago. He was also was a medical historian and collector of rare medical works.
His bio is referenced below which includes names of his children who may have his notes regarding this book--if there is further interest.
www.chicagotribune.com
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His bio is referenced below which includes names of his children who may have his notes regarding this book--if there is further interest.
DR. STANTON A. FRIEDBERG, 89, OF RUSH
Dr. Stanton A. Friedberg, 89, professor emeritus and former chairman of the department of otolaryngology and bronchoesophagology at Rush-Presbyterian-St. Luke’s Medical Center, also was a med…
www.chicagotribune.com
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