🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Button help

[LostinGeorgia]

Found this at the same site where I found the 1873 Seated Liberty half recently. It is 27.4 mm in diameter. Has a spun back. Color doesn’t look right to be a Tombac but not sure as I have never found one.

 

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[LostinGeorgia]

Found this at the same site where I found the 1873 Seated Liberty half recently. It is 27.4 mm in diameter. Has a spun back. Color doesn’t look right to be a Tombac but not sure as I have never found one. Rang up 42 on my legend.

Found this at the same site where I found the 1873 Seated Liberty half recently. It is 27.4 mm in diameter. Has a spun back. Color doesn’t look right to be a Tombac but not sure as I have never found one.

Rang up 42 on my legend

 

[sibbley]

Looks like a tombac button. I don't think the one I found rang up that high though.

 

[pepperj]

Found this at the same site where I found the 1873 Seated Liberty half recently. It is 27.4 mm in diameter. Has a spun back. Color doesn’t look right to be a Tombac but not sure as I have never found one.

I would say it has a silver wash. Tombacks will retain the color without any leaching of any other color.

 

[pepperj]

Rang up 42 on my legend

A tomback cuff or a small shirt button will be a mid/high range tone on the Deus.
Not the greatest signal either if they're at any depth.
A brass button will sound higher.
Pewter can be even lower, and not a good sounding signal.

 

[sibbley]

A tomback cuff or a small shirt button will be a mid/high range tone on the Deus.
Not the greatest signal either if they're at any depth.
A brass button will sound higher.
Pewter can be even lower, and not a good sounding signal.

Both my lead pewter buttons had almost an iron grunt on the Legend.

 

[sibbley]

A tomback cuff or a small shirt button will be a mid/high range tone on the Deus.
Not the greatest signal either if they're at any depth.
A brass button will sound higher.
Pewter can be even lower, and not a good sounding signal.

I just swung my legend over my tombac shirt button. Out of the ground it gave me a 30. I think it was lower when in ground.

 

[pepperj]

Both my lead pewter buttons had almost an iron grunt on the Legend.

The program that I use the sound would be foil to .22 cal. The VDI is in the 40s if it were not the fact of digging anything that's not iron I would have missed the ones I did recover from this one site,

 

[pepperj]

I would tend to agree with you as the soil and the surrounding iron can influence the signal sound and VDI.
I can even have a surface rock giving iron a good high tone.
So after digging a few rocks on iron-I caught that one now.

Pewters don't fair well in my clay up here, they get really eaten up it seems.

 

[sibbley]

I would tend to agree with you as the soil and the surrounding iron can influence the signal sound and VDI.
I can even have a surface rock giving iron a good high tone.
So after digging a few rocks on iron-I caught that one now.

Pewters don't fair well in my clay up here, they get really eaten up it seems.

My two pewters are pretty eaten up as well.

 

[pepperj]

My two pewters are pretty eaten up as well.

Oh there comes a time and site where one will dig a pewter and go "Nice!".
Bush sites are generally more forgiving on the pewter than the acidic fields.

 

[CRUSADER]

TOMBAC.

 

[pepperj]

TOMBAC.

The button face shows a patina of copper color.
Now you have probably dug 100s if not 1000s of Tomac button/bells whole and bits and pieces.
Question: Is there different quality of a Tombac items.
Washed, partial, or does have to be the real deal?

I have some that are broken that I wonder about seeing them.
I snapped a broken piece of a Tombac crotal bell.
Green, brown, silvery along the crack. (Might have gotten mineralized influence in the crack)

 

[CRUSADER]

The button face shows a patina of copper color.
Now you have probably dug 100s if not 1000s of Tomac button/bells whole and bits and pieces.
Question: Is there different quality of a Tombac items.
Washed, partial, or does have to be the real deal?

I have some that are broken that I wonder about seeing them.
I snapped a broken piece of a Tombac crotal bell.
Green, brown, silvery along the crack. (Might have gotten mineralized influence in the crack)

Over 10,000 (Dad & I combined). They come in all kinds of metal quality.

 

[LostinGeorgia]

I guess the big question I have is we’re Tombacs the only buttons turned on a lathe. If not I am leaning more towards it not being tombac. But then again having never dug one that’s why I am here. Have dug some pewter buttons and yes in my soil they are pretty flacky on the edges. Thanks to everyone for the input.