Button, Button, Whos got the button?

Narthoniel

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Button, Button, Who's got the button?

Hello all,

I was out digging with my friend Steve a few days ago. We were exploring a site together hoping to find some signs of old targets. After about 3 hours of nothing but trash and light rain, Steve had to head home. I gave it about an hour more just hoping I was right about the site we were on.

As the rain started to pick up, I began to think more and more about following him. Then I hit a signal that changed everything.

It was a strong signal in the injun range(12-32 to 12-34 on the Etrac). Expecting another piece of trash, I cut a plug and flipped out about 4-6 inches of dirt. Nothing in the plug, so I stuck my probe in the hole and it began singing. Reached in and felt something solid in the loose dirt and what a shock I received when I saw what it was. There in my hand were not one, but SEVEN one piece convex buttons. And they were all on a very small piece of string.

I was amazed at my fortune, and out of habit stuck the probe back in the hole. It sang! I reached in, grabbed some dirt, tossed it to the side, and checked the hole. Still singing. The next handful I checked before tossing it and the probe sang, so I sifted through the dirt to find TWO more buttons. Puzzled, I checked the pile I had just tossed down, and sure enough, I had tossed TWO more aside. So there I was with 7 buttons on a string and 4 loose buttons.

Again, out of habit, I stuck the probe in the hole and it was STILL singing. I reached in and all the loose dirt was gone, so I started feeling into the sides of the hole. In one corner down at the bottom I felt something solid. I grabbed it firmly, gave a tug, and a TON of buttons on a string came out!! I wish I had had a camera to capture the discovery, but alas, I have no field photos.

There was nothing left in the hole, so I filled it, carefully packaged my buttons, and headed home. On the way I began daydreaming about having a coat made with authentic buttons. I have been waiting until I found enough similar buttons to make a coat, and there in one hole I found enough for at least one. I was a VERY happy camper.

Upon arriving at home, I carefully pulled out the buttons, snapped a few photos of the dirty bunch and then started investigating them. It was then I noticed gilt. So I grab one of the loose buttons and start cleaning the back with naval jelly(a big thanks to Buckleboy for his guide and personal advice on cleaning these buttons.) I was under the impression these were standard civilian one piece buttons like I had found in the past, so the back seemed the most logical to start with.

After a little patience with the jelly, a nice backmark appeared. I did a little research and this is what I learned.

The backmark reads: ARMITAGE PHILA with the words TREBLE GILT in smaller print on the outside rim of the button. George Armitage was born in Sheffield England and moved to the United States in 1795. In 1799 he began making buttons in Philadelphia and continued to do so until 1826 when he sold the business.

Reading that set me on an even higher cloud than I had been on before. Knowing these buttons had some age to them was just more icing on the cake. After making that discovery, I began cleaning the outside of the button I had begun working on. All was fine until the jelly started working. As the jelly started removing dirt and the Qtip moved it around slowly, tiny details began to emerge. Little by little I started seeing something, and then suddenly, my dreams of a period coat were bashed.

There on the button stood and Eagle.

Shock and awe immediately set in, and as I continued cleaning they took greater hold on me. Not only had I found 33 one piece buttons, but they were old as the dickens, had an amazing amount of gilt on them, and they were MILITARY.

Once again I rushed to the web to research. Calls to friends and Buckleboy were also made around the same time. After a couple hours of looking we finally found out what I had found, and the reality of what I had became even better.

33 Stunningly beautiful US Infantry Officer buttons from the War of 1812

I am shocked, stunned, and amazed to have made this discovery, and it is beyond my wildest dream to dig just one, let alone 33 buttons of this age in this condition. The only theory I can come up with for this find is that these buttons were originally held in some sort of bag, pouch or box and were lost in transit. It appears that they were strung tightly together by the man who made them and sent out to whoever or wherever to be sewn into a coat there. Whatever held them has long since deteriorated, as I saw no evidence of it in the hole. There is no other way I can make sense of the buttons being so nice and the string being still intact.

If you have any theories about their origin, I am very interested to hear them. We may never know the full story, but I am elated with this find. Thank you for reading(I hope I was not too long winded) and happy hunting!
Anthony

The photos are as follows:
#1: all 33 eagle buttons(the chipped tombac was in the hole but does not match so I did not make note of it before)
#2: 22 dirty buttons on a string(these are as yet uncleaned, but you can still see some details)
#3: The front of one of the buttons
#4: Closeup of the backmark on one
#5: 9 of the buttons(5 came off the small string in cleaning, but 2 are still left on at the moment)
#6: The backside of 6 of the buttons. There is still a little dirt in a few of them
 

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Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

BUST MY BUTTONS!!!!
 

Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

What a Fantastic find, Congratulations on all your finds.

I too found one of those Eagle buttons, but I found mine in Ohio. It is a Sterling Silver Officers button. I found mine near a cemetery where War of 1812, Revolutionary and CW soldiers were buried. I found mine near a drive way that let to a church in front of the cemetery. I often wonder why the button was lost in the driveway. My theory is that a Great Grandfather went to his Great Grandsons Civil War funeral. When he got out of the buggy to attend his funeral, the button popped off of his uniform.

I am including a pictures of my War of 1812 button.

Thanks Again for a outstanding post and Congratulations.

HH, Ringfinder
 

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Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

Truly amazing find/s!

I'd hunt that place again and again!

HH
 

Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

ringfinder said:
What a Fantastic find, Congratulations on all your finds.

I too found one of those Eagle buttons, but I found mine in Ohio. It is a Sterling Silver Officers button. I found mine near a cemetery where War of 1812, Revolutionary and CW soldiers were buried. I found mine near a drive way that let to a church in front of the cemetery. I often wonder why the button was lost in the driveway. My theory is that a Great Grandfather went to his Great Grandsons Civil War funeral. When he got out of the buggy to attend his funeral, the button popped off of his uniform.

I am including a pictures of my War of 1812 button.

Thanks Again for a outstanding post and Congratulations.

HH, Ringfinder

That is a fantastic button! Is it solid silver or silver plate? The backmark looks a little different than mine, but it could just be the photo. Is your button flat or domed? Mine are all domed, yours looks flat. Just curious, and glad to see another fine example of these buttons. Very nice and thanks for sharing.
Anthony
 

Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

Pheww what a find.... What else could there be at the site. I'd be camping there for awhile...sweet
 

Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

The button is domed, just like yours, as far as the Silver content, I can't tell you, I was told
that is what it is. The back of the button, looks like it might be a little different than yours.
I have found many War of 1812 buttons at a War of 1812 fort site, but all of them are just flat buttons, this is the first one I ever found that was Silver and with a REG T on it. The oldest coin I ever found came from the fort site and it was a 1717 Monday-Thursday coin from England, I also found 2 bit piece at this site also.

So If I were you, I'd go back to the site where you found those buttons and really do a tight search hunt. Maybe look at some old history books and see if there was a trading post near that site. Might be a good place to hunt.

Good Luck and HH,Ringfinder


Narthoniel said:
ringfinder said:
What a Fantastic find, Congratulations on all your finds.

I too found one of those Eagle buttons, but I found mine in Ohio. It is a Sterling Silver Officers button. I found mine near a cemetery where War of 1812, Revolutionary and CW soldiers were buried. I found mine near a drive way that let to a church in front of the cemetery. I often wonder why the button was lost in the driveway. My theory is that a Great Grandfather went to his Great Grandsons Civil War funeral. When he got out of the buggy to attend his funeral, the button popped off of his uniform.

I am including a pictures of my War of 1812 button.

Thanks Again for a outstanding post and Congratulations.

HH, Ringfinder

That is a fantastic button! Is it solid silver or silver plate? The backmark looks a little different than mine, but it could just be the photo. Is your button flat or domed? Mine are all domed, yours looks flat. Just curious, and glad to see another fine example of these buttons. Very nice and thanks for sharing.
Anthony
 

Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

That's one treasured find....my mouth dropped when I opened your post. :o

Huge Congrats...a well deserved Banner!!! :D

HH, Hank 8)
 

Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

Really outstanding find ! One of the best I've seen on here.
I would be very careful cleaning them. I'd consider bringing them to a person who works as a conservator for a museum. You just don't want to be removing any of the finish (and lowering their value substantially) by using the wrong stuff to clean them. Even if you could call a museum and talk to someone in that field and get a recommendation just to be sure - it's a once in a lifetime find.
Congratulations!
 

Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

Simply awe inspiring...great digs man...great digs! I ALWAYS love seeing pieces of our countries military history, thank you for sharing.

~Tom
 

Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

now to make that real war of 1812 coat with "real" burttons :wink: you'll best the toast of any reenactor event you visit with that.
 

Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

simply amazing!.!.! i would search that area good.couldve been a camp or somethin else good
 

Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

Wow Wow Wow. Sorry I missed this. That is the find of a lifetime Anthony.

Congratulations

Bob
 

Re: Button, Button, Who's got the button?

That's Awesome!! Absolutely!!
 

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