Bullet Id and two large brass targets found together

[Smilodon]

Out with a friend yesterday at came across this huge brass rectangle thing, 12 inches deep, in the same hole the other large looking buckle piece. Any ideas on them or the other photos. Also I have been finding musket balls and some have holes drilled through them, any idea why

 

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[Smilodon]

Almost forgot, the large rectangle is around 6" X 4"

 

[taz42o]

The bottom middle piece might be from a folding rule.

 

[BosnMate]

You can see where the brass was hit by probably a round ball, but I have no idea what it ever was intended to be in the first place. That said,
the round ball was poorly cast and has a void in it. I've done that before, especially when first starting to cast balls, usually after the mold heats
up you don't get those. I just dump those back into the pot and re-melt them. The last picture resembles a modern muzzle loading bullet called
a Maxi Ball, however, I'm doubting myself, and with all that patina, I'm thinking possibly a shotgun slug.

 

[BosnMate]

Here are a couple of photos of a maxi ball and a shotgun slug. Keep in mind yours has been fired and deformed a bit.
This one is a maxi ball, modern and just cast.
These are shotgun slugs, note the one on the right.

 

[BosnMate]

I keep thinking of more. Maxi balls are used in muzzle loading firearms, especially the modern muzzle loaders. They require a faster rifling twist
stabilize the bullet, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one turn in 22 inches, while a round ball muzzle loader uses a very slow twist
like a turn in 66 inches. If your find has rifling marks on it, which I really can't see for sure, then it would be the maxi ball, without rifling marks
would make it a shotgun slug.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Middle left picture is an Artillery, 3rd Regiment button and if it is real dates from 1813-14. However, Scovill Manufacturing Company produced a replica button in 1952 to commemorate the 150 anniversary of the founding of the company. Does the button have a backmark? Can you post a picture of the back?

 

[Smilodon]

Middle left picture is an Artillery, 3rd Regiment button and if it is real dates from 1813-14. However, Scovill Manufacturing Company produced a replica button in 1952 to commemorate the 150 anniversary of the founding of the company. Does the button have a backmark? Can you post a picture of the back?

I will take a photo of the back a little later. I posted a button from that site a few days ago on the what is it page that has what I think is an R and an A on it but no one could identify it. Can you identify that one? We found three king George coins, a 1777 1 reale and a coin that says Mexixana Republican and I believe it is from 1832. Thanks for you help

 

[cudamark]

Your rectangle brass is probably an applique for a cigarette case or compact judging by the size you mentioned. They were likely mounted into wood, plastic, bakelite, or ceramic.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Balls or conicals with an irregular hole (or very regular if the puller attachment has a centering collar) in the tip show the load was pulled. You add a wood-screw fitting to the rammer tip and force it into the ball - then draw it back out the bore. This is after you forget to put the powder in first (accompanied by a lot of nautical language as the deer scampers off or your buddies chuckle) or when coming in from hunting so you don't have to shoot and then clean the gun.

The conical you show is modern - 1960's to present.

Patina depends on soil. I recover all white lead balls (oxidization) that I have fired five years before. Which, in fact, I do all the time as I recast the lead.

 

[fyrffytr1]

I will take a photo of the back a little later. I posted a button from that site a few days ago on the what is it page that has what I think is an R and an A on it but no one could identify it. Can you identify that one? We found three king George coins, a 1777 1 reale and a coin that says Mexixana Republican and I believe it is from 1832. Thanks for you help

I can't make out enough of it to help. I think Creskol may have gave the best possible ID. Again, a picture of the back and any marks would be a great help.

 

[HutSiteDigger]

The Artillery 3rd Regiment button looking @ the back of the button from the photo next to it... which i assume is the back of the button? I think you have a legit 1815 period Artillery 3rd Regiment button

 

[jefg231]

Clock parts?

 

[Smilodon]

Clock parts?

Here is a photo of the back of the button along with the other button that could not be identified earlier. It is a better picture

 

[HutSiteDigger]

The 3rd regiment button is legit.. Congrats on the that!! Not sure what the other button is though!

 

[fyrffytr1]

Here is a photo of the back of the button along with the other button that could not be identified earlier. It is a better picture

That looks like a Regiment of Artillerists (1st Regiment) It is AY 32 in Albert's button book.
"The device, intertwined foliated script letters RA, Blank (back) 20-24mm"
It would date from 1811-1813. They are some nice buttons. Here is a scan from the book showing both of your buttons. AY 32 and AY 38 A1.
Here are two scans from Albert's book showing your buttons. AY-32 and its description are in the first scan as well as a picture of your other button AY-38 A1. The second scan gives it's description. I think both buttons are real. Congratulations. Now, go find some more!